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Old 11-13-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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It is becoming clear that if Burisma and Ukrainian corruption are properly investigated, it will reveal massive corruption involving US politicians.

That is why they fired the prosecutor and why they are trying to impeach Trump....stop the investigation that would reveal everything and destroy multiple political careers.



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Anti-Trump CIA whistleblower Eric Ciaramella filed his second-hand “whistleblower” complaint against President Trump after speaking with Adam Schiff’s team in September.

Ciaramella claimed he was concerned about President Trump’s discussion of Hunter Biden during his call with Ukrainian President Zelensky.

Now we know why Ciaramella was so concerned.
According to White House visitor logs Eric Ciaramella was hosting the January 19, 2016 White House meeting where Ukrainian officials were told to drop the investigation into Hunter Biden.

“According to Stephen McIntyre the demand that Ukrainian top prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired as a condition for IMF loan almost certainly originated with Biden staff. The demand was first announced to Ukrainian prosecutors at a January 19, 2016 meeting with US officials hosted by Eric Ciaramella.”

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HUGE! -- Eric Ciaramella Was Hosting 2016 WH Meeting Where Ukrainian Officials Were Told to Drop Investigation on Hunter Biden!
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Withholding Urkaine money and quid pro quo while enriching your family is okay if you're a Demonicrat.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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This is very interesting indeed
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Again, if you believe that VP Biden had the juice to convince the entire G7, plus World Bank, plus the IMF that Shokin had to go so that Hunter could keep a $600K/yr job, that's even more reason to vote for him. He'd be the most internationally powerful US politician in history.

That's where this conspiracy theory falls apart. What motivation do all those European countries, plus two international banking organizations to go along with Joe's alleged agenda?

Also, it was never an investigation into Hunter Biden. The Ukrainian government has already announced that they see no evidence of any wrongdoing by Hunter.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It is becoming clear that if Burisma and Ukrainian corruption are properly investigated, it will reveal massive corruption involving US politicians.

That is why they fired the prosecutor and why they are trying to impeach Trump....stop the investigation that would reveal everything and destroy multiple political careers.






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HUGE! -- Eric Ciaramella Was Hosting 2016 WH Meeting Where Ukrainian Officials Were Told to Drop Investigation on Hunter Biden!
Charlie, made the rounds. Brennan's handpicked flunky.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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Again, if you believe that VP Biden had the juice to convince the entire G7, plus World Bank, plus the IMF that Shokin had to go so that Hunter could keep a $600K/yr job, that's even more reason to vote for him. He'd be the most internationally powerful US politician in history.

That's where this conspiracy theory falls apart. What motivation do all those European countries, plus two international banking organizations to go along with Joe's alleged agenda?

Also, it was never an investigation into Hunter Biden. The Ukrainian government has already announced that they see no evidence of any wrongdoing by Hunter.
Not by Hunter but by Biden duh. It's obvious as all hell. To answer your other question the European countries didn't want to get nailed either.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Not by Hunter but by Biden duh. It's obvious as all hell. To answer your other question the European countries didn't want to get nailed either.

If Hunter wasn't in trouble, Joe had no motivation to get rid of Shokin. Duh. $600K/yr is a lot of money to you and me, it doesn't even BEGIN to move the needle for national governments and international banks, however.

If Joe is the one suspected, there is no need to involve the Ukrainian government, at all. VP Joe Biden doesn't fall under Ukrainian jurisdiction in any way.

The Euro countries didn't want to get nailed for what? The fact that Trump defenders are trying to paint Shokin as some crusader for justice is laughable. There is no evidence to support that, and lots of evidence to the contrary.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If Hunter wasn't in trouble, Joe had no motivation to get rid of Shokin. Duh. $600K/yr is a lot of money to you and me, it doesn't even BEGIN to move the needle for national governments and international banks, however.

If Joe is the one suspected, there is no need to involve the Ukrainian government, at all. VP Joe Biden doesn't fall under Ukrainian jurisdiction in any way.

The Euro countries didn't want to get nailed for what? The fact that Trump defenders are trying to paint Shokin as some crusader for justice is laughable. There is no evidence to support that, and lots of evidence to the contrary.
Wait, What's this......



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Here’s Why Corrupt FBI Actors Strzok and Page Referred to Schiff’s Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...la-as-charlie/

Oh SNAP!
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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Biden's guilt or innocence does not mean Trump is guilty or innocent. They can both be guilty or both be innocent, or somewhere in between.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It is becoming clear that if Burisma and Ukrainian corruption are properly investigated, it will reveal massive corruption involving US politicians.

That is why they fired the prosecutor and why they are trying to impeach Trump....stop the investigation that would reveal everything and destroy multiple political careers.
In other words, the Democrats are impeaching Trump because Trump is exposing Democrat corruption that happened during the Obama administration.

What a surprise.
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