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Everybody should pay the same price. Why is it the medical industry can charge customers different pricing for like kind products and services? Why can't any other business do that without violating USC 15? Name ANY OTHER BUSINESS that can charge customers whatever they feel like AFTER the service or product has been delivered.
They aren't making up the price after the fact. Most people just don't bother to get the price before they use the product.
No matter how you cost it out, someone is paying for it. And if it's not the one receiving the service, it's someone else. Money doesn't come from agencies, it comes from people.
Right. Just don't confuse with a hospital bill with the actual cost, or what is actually accepted as payment. Many times the hospital takes a large discount or even eats the bill. So they 'pay' by profiting less.
They aren't making up the price after the fact. Most people just don't bother to get the price before they use the product.
Many medical encounters are too complicated or too uncertain as to outcome to set a price beforehand.
Coming in with a heart attack or stroke, no one can know from the outset how much medical service that patient will need.
Simpler and more elective encounters can more easily be priced beforehand.
Welcome to socialized medicine and the govts patent system.
Thank you sir, may I have another
We are owned.
The only ones not owned are the wealthiest among us. The richest of the 1% so basically a few hundred thousand folks on the entire planet.
For the rest of us at some point, no matter how good you believe your "insurance" is, are no longer "economically viable" to keep alive due to the socialist system we are forced to live under. It's not like you are allowed to seek alternative treatment, go outside the approved channels, or (gasp!) freely end your own life.
Of course this could and would conceivably take place in a free market system with natural scarcity and natural supply and demand but that's life. And any person with an inkling of natural law can understand and accept this. it's the way people are forced to live and die now which should anger any moral person. Any logical person.
Team Red wants socialism until it impacts them. Team Blue wants socialism and is fine with everyone being enslaved/killed equally (those glorious equal outcomes). Tom Woods is right about the two teams: Red talks a good game but they are cowards. They don't mean what they say and don't do what they say they'll do. So yes, they're closet Marxists. At least Blue is open, for the most part, about their Marxist delusions. They mean what they say and do what they say they'll do. Good for them.
For that, if we have to be enslaved, I'm going to start consistently cheering on Team Blue. Like I said, good for them. If we have to all suffer...then by all means...all of us should suffer.
Like you asked, may you have another? Of course! Let's go all in and watch it burn to the ground...for every last sorry SOB on this planet.
You or the government do not have the right to determine whether I should live or die.
I do not have the moral authority to force you to pay for my health expenses.
If all of us are only responsible for our own medical expenses, we can individually decide when to stop the care. For example, in my case, that would be $1 million.
Your insurance company will decide what they will pay for thus whether you should live or die. One way insurance companies do this is deny the claim and appeal and delay hoping the patient dies meanwhile.
I have an advance directive that states no extraordinary measures be done to keep me alive. I want to be comfortable with enough drugs to keep me out of pain even if it hastens my death.
Unfortunately, the medical community is afraid of prescribing potent pain medications, even to terminally ill, because of addiction problems being blamed on them. Physicians are now afraid that family members will abuse the pain medications prescribed to the terminally ill.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should. This sort of thing weakens society and the economy when done on a large scale, we are seeing the effects now with the cost of health insurance.
On the other hand we do need to do a certain amount of R&D so we can learn to prevent the preventable and cure the curable.
"Trikafta took three decades to develop. Scientists first isolated the genetic defect that causes cystic fibrosis in 1989. Vertex, which developed the treatment, has set a high price tag for Trikafta, at $311,000. But a treatment that can extend life expectancy for cystic fibrosis patients by decades, while also improving the quality of life for my daughter and patients like her, is still worthwhile even at that price."
At what point do we say a course of treatment is too expensive? In this article a woman is saying "it's worth it" to spend 311,000 dollars PER YEAR to treat her daughters illness. If this girl lives the average age of cystic fibrosis sufferers (44 years) the tab is going to be 12 million and change. If drug is actually effective she may live to 70 with a tab of over 20 million dollars.
Sure its "worth it" if others are paying for it. Now I know why I am paying close to 10,000 dollars per year BEFORE my 8,250 dollar deductible.
Every person born is terminal. Is it reasonable to expect others to finance a "life extension" through exorbitant insurance premiums? At what point do we say no?
At some point we need to be open about the fact that money is just paper and ink and its value only exists in our imaginations. Money is not worth more than someone's life.
Of course the other obvious problem is we have a for-profit healthcare industry that is allowed to charge that much.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should. This sort of thing weakens society and the economy when done on a large scale, we are seeing the effects now with the cost of health insurance.
On the other hand we do need to do a certain amount of R&D so we can learn to prevent the preventable and cure the curable.
What better use of the USD than to improve on the health and lives, safety and security of our people?
So whatever plan she is on everybody in the plan is on the hook for extraordinary expense? You seem to think there is an unlimited amount of money we can throw at medical care. Have you ever had to pay for health insurance? It isn't free.
Medicaid will pay for it? Did you know Medicaid (Welfare medical) costs more than defense spending? Sure; whats wrong with spending another 311,000 dollars a year.
That's how insurance works. The vast majority of the beneficiaries spend less than the coverage, probably far less. And a small percentage have very expensive short-term or long-term conditions. What Medicaid, Medicare, or HMOs don't pay are borne by other payors. Group plans shft costs onto individual plans. The argument for single payor is that insurance companies can't shift costs since it is one large group plan.
Your math is wrong. You're counting all the other programs and also leaving out defense's share of the interest expense. Defense is about 4 times the size of the Medicaid program. Total healthcare spending in the economy is larger than military spending by about 1/3rd.
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Did you know Medicaid (Welfare medical) costs more than defense spending? Sure; whats wrong with spending another 311,000 dollars a year. 
