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This is the thing. Both House and Senate get to run the process as they see fit, per the Constitution.
If the House pursues a skewed process, using selective leaks, fabricated dialogue, etc., the Senate can be expected to react in kind.
They could just summarily dismiss if they want, but my guess is that McConnell will not do that. There will be too much opportunity for him to make House Dems look bad for him to pass up.
So you are expecting that McConnell will pursue a skewed process, using selective leaks, fabricated dialogue, etc.,
Trump asked Ukrainians to prove their commitment to fighting corruption by looking into a few high profile instances of likely corruption. That's something that is completely normal and there's nothing wrong with it, but then Democrats that were unfortunately placed in a position of trust freaked out, worried that if the Ukrainians investigated corruption it might hurt their party and they picked party over country by starting this whole mess.
Protecting the false reputation of Joe Biden was more important to them than the strategic interest of their country.
Oh you poor dear! Trump totally has you wrapped around his finger, doesn't he?
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Senator Graham has made it clear that any so-called "Impeachment" vote will be "Dead on arrival" in the Senate, if the House bars the testimony and cross-examination of the Eric Ciaramella - "The Whistleblower" - during the House hearings. Of course Senator Graham is right and any fair, justice minded Senator will agree, as the failure to included the testimony of the "Whistleblower" will establish this whole process as the illegitimate kangagroo court partisan lynch mob style process that it is increasingly clear that it has become.
Well said, Senator Graham.
The only things Lindsey Graham has made clear is that he's too damn stupid to understand the purpose of the Whistle Blower Protection Act and that he has no respect for the laws passed by Congress.
Why can't the whistle blower come before the Senate? The House has no say in that.
You may ask Senator Grassely that question, we are all interested in what he has to say. He was a prime mover and chief sponsor of whistleblower legislation, and also improvements to the acts. He is, BTW, a well known longstanding Republican, the most senior Republican in the senate.
“It’s not always easy to figure out how to disclose waste, fraud or abuse in government when there are so many different rules governing different agencies. Empowering coordinators across the federal government will give whistleblowers a clear, confidential resource to make sure they are informed and equipped to lawfully carry out their patriotic duty to shine a light on inefficiencies or misconduct in government,” Grassley said. “This law represents an important step for keeping faith with the American people, but there is always more to do to protect whistleblowers.”
And ... “When it comes to whether someone qualifies as a whistleblower, the distinctions being drawn between first- and second-hand knowledge aren’t legal ones. It’s just not part of whistleblower protection law or any agency policy. Complaints based on second-hand information should not be rejected out of hand, but they do require additional leg work to get at the facts and evaluate the claim’s credibility"
Will the Senate follow Senator Grassely's opinion, or not? Inquiring minds want to know.
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By using congress appropriated funding as leverage to get dirt on a political opponent, it would be an impeachable offense.
Incorrect. The POTUS is within the chain of custody regarding the release of the funds. Congress does not have the authority in this case to just send them the money. That being said, the reason it goes through POTUS is part of the checks and balances of Government. There isn't any evidence of any " leverage " being applied. In fact, we hear " No pressure at all " from the Ukraine President.
As an American taxpayer I support any President that looks long and hard about sending $ 400 million to a long standing corrupt environment. Another reason he was elected.
The allegation that there was something wrong with the call depends ENTIRELY on the Bidens being completely free of wrongdoing. Without testimony from Hunter Biden, it is close to impossible to prove your case.
You clearly do not understand the issue here.
Trump had all possible resources to conduct a proper investigation into any alleged wrongdoing of Hunter Biden.
Instead, trump sent a private citizen and attempted to bribe the Ukraine president to make a public statement that Ukraine was investigating Biden. Furthermore, trump used congress appropriated funding to bribe this president.
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Incorrect. The POTUS is within the chain of custody regarding the release of the funds. Congress does not have the authority in this case to just send them the money. That being said, the reason it goes through POTUS is part of the checks and balances of Government. There isn't any evidence of any " leverage " being applied. In fact, we hear " No pressure at all " from the Ukraine President.
As an American taxpayer I support any President that looks long and hard about sending $ 400 million to a long standing corrupt environment. Another reason he was elected.
I just can't wait to see Dear Leaders' followers giving their 'If the glove don't fir you must acquit' Dog & Pony Show during the impeachment trial.
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