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Old 11-11-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post

The whistleblower reported suspicious behavior. Barr tried to keep it under wraps.

Why the Attorney General was trying to keep this secret is what should be investigated.
Hilarious. He wasn't "trying to keep it secret".
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Hilarious. He wasn't "trying to keep it secret".
Uninformed comment.

Of course he was.

The DOJ made a determination early on in this saga that the whistleblower complaint did not have to be shared with Congress.

That was obviously an absurd judgment made only to protect the orange loser.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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So, we should just assume there is an investigation into the Bidens, because......?




Of course that's what we have, that's the point of an inquiry.




Sure, go down that road. I'm sure it'll serve you well. Never mind Trump taking out all ambiguity of what he wanted in front of the cameras on the White House lawn:

“If they (the Ukrainian govmt) were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens,” Trump said. “Likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens. Because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...igation-demand

That is not advocating for cracking down on general "corruption". That is not asking for "assistance" in ongoing investigations.


Assume nothing . You don't know what you don't know. That goes double for the Government. As I asked, are Americans aware that fellow Americans are still being held hostage in Iran ? That it was known during the " negotiations" for the Nuclear Deal ? What else don't we know? Why do you think all those foreign lobbyists and lawyers set up shop in DC ? For the fine dining options?

An inquiry based on " suspicion" orchestrated by opinion regarding foreign policy and procedures by an elected representative of the people. Our taxpayer dollars at stake.

Where in the Constitution , under the Powers of the President are these types of requests forbidden ?
Where in the Constitution does it say that Government Employees have the Power to involve themselves in foreign policy decisions and actions ?
A Parade of Opinions that are different than the POTUS's . That's your witness list.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Let me dumb it down for ya. trump used Congressional appropriated funds for personal reasons to bribe a president of another country.
No, he is ALLEGED to have used "Congressional appropriated funds" (but pretty clearly didn't) to get the president of another country to investigate an instance in which it appears Biden "used Congressional appropriated funds for personal reasons to bribe a president of another country".
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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No, he is ALLEGED to have used "Congressional appropriated funds" (but pretty clearly didn't) to get the president of another country to investigate an instance in which it appears Biden "used Congressional appropriated funds for personal reasons to bribe a president of another country".
Again, it was not for personal reasons, he had the full backing of the US government and our European allies in ousting Shokin.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Lol I'm getting what I'm saying straight from the source and you counter with CNN spin? That's pretty hilarious.

This was how Giuliani was brought into the conversation

"we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine."

The first mention of him comes from Zelenskyy, not Trump, and he likely never comes up otherwise.

Stop filling your head with partisan spin.
What is your source? Mine is from the transcript that the white house provided which CNN referenced.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...ied09.2019.pdf

Bottom of page 3 into page 4.

Rudy called first.

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Old 11-11-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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No one has suggested there ever was an investigation into Hunter Biden and no one ever requested one.

Hunter Biden's role in this is that he was hired to a high paid job he wasn't qualified for by a corrupt company as a way to purchase a favor from his father. The corrupt company was worried about an investigation by a Ukrainian prosecutor that threatened the company so they bought Joe Biden to flex the muscles of his office to fire the prosecutor and get the investigation shut down by the new and more corrupt prosecutor..... and that's exactly what happened.

The investigation was always into Burisma, not any Biden.
Not according to the transcript the White House released of that "perfect call."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...ied09.2019.pdf

Page 4
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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^^^Ridiculous! That government website is from the office of the Inspector General. I think that website is more informed of the legal process than a daytime poster ^^^^.

Our Inspector General
WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION INFORMATION


https://www.opm.gov/our-inspector-ge...n-information/
Let me explain it to you again. That's an article not a statute.

The claim that Ciaramella is a whistleblower depends on a specific statute (5 USC 3033), which does not support the claim that he is a whistleblower since what he reported was not within the scope of the statute.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: FL
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Then nothing.

The whistleblower reported suspicious behavior. Barr tried to keep it under wraps.

Why the Attorney General was trying to keep this secret is what should be investigated.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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^^^Ridiculous! That government website is from the office of the Inspector General. I think that website is more informed of the legal process than a daytime poster ^^^^.

Our Inspector General
WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION INFORMATION


https://www.opm.gov/our-inspector-ge...n-information/

That is not "from the office of the Inspector General". It is from the website for the Office of Personnel Management", which has its own inspector general. There are lots of inspector generals. There is no single "Office of the Inspector General".

Ciaramella made his report to the IG for the intelligence community even though what he reported had nothing to do with the way the intelligence community was being run. It's a sham.
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