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Old 11-12-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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In other threads with triggered conservatives trashing California, it's been stated that those leaving are mostly conservatives. Are liberal Californians really flocking to... Idaho?
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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In other threads with triggered conservatives trashing California, it's been stated that those leaving are mostly conservatives. Are liberal Californians really flocking to... Idaho?
Have you ever been there?

Boise and Coeur d'Alene both have good "granola hippie" potential. Was already some of that there when I was there.

Sun Valley/Ketchum, similar to Aspen, is already blue. As is the area around Moscow (Univ of Idaho).

If Boise ever got big enough, I don't have a hard time imagining Idaho being a smaller version of Oregon.

Northern Idaho used to be blue due to all the mines.
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Consider the welcome mat removed.

‘Go back to California’: Wave of newcomers fuels backlash in Boise

Just consider last week’s mayoral election. It was the most competitive race in recent memory, a referendum on growth in the rapidly expanding capital of Idaho. And candidate Wayne Richey ran on a very simple platform: Stop the California invasion.

His basic plan to fulfill that campaign promise? “Trash the place.”

Richey figured that would be the best way to keep deep-pocketed Golden Staters from moving to his leafy hometown. He blames them for pushing home prices and rents up so high that Boiseans can’t afford to live here on the meager wages most Idaho jobs pay.

At a candidate forum in late October, he had a terse answer for the question: “If you were king or queen for the day, what one thing would you do to improve Boise?”

“A $26-billion wall,” he said, laughing, drawing out each word for maximum emphasis. As in build one. Around Idaho.

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The most recent Treasure Valley Survey, conducted by the Idaho Policy Institute at Boise State University, does not bode well for anyone who would run this city in coming years. It was conducted in late 2018 and released in June. More than 70% of respondents said the region was growing too fast, compared with only 50% with that view in 2016.
Trash the place??? Why do that as it would make Californians feel right at home....
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:02 PM
 
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Does anyone really think that shouting "Go away!" will do any good?
If it did, Seattle would have done it long ago. And the second largest contributor to our growth is Texas. And since Seattle keeps getting bluer, there are probably a lot of liberals in the bunch. Should the mayor of Seattle run on kicking the Texans out? As for Boise, there are probably a lot of conservatives in that bunch. But capitalism means prices increase based on demand, which is why Seattle is expensive. Are conservatives in Boise opposed to capitalism???
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:04 PM
 
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Have you ever been there?

Boise and Coeur d'Alene both have good "granola hippie" potential. Was already some of that there when I was there.

Sun Valley/Ketchum, similar to Aspen, is already blue. As is the area around Moscow (Univ of Idaho).

If Boise ever got big enough, I don't have a hard time imagining Idaho being a smaller version of Oregon.

Northern Idaho used to be blue due to all the mines.
Most cities of any size are already blue. That doesn't necessarily make them attractive for large numbers of liberal Californians. It's also all relative. Blue cities in blue states are going to be more progressive than blue cities in very red states. Idaho is a very red state.

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Old 11-12-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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Two blue counties in Idaho in 2016 and neither have the largest cities.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Have you ever been there? It doesn't sound like it. It's beautiful state. The people are nice as well.
It’s actually not. Boise looks like Reno. But I’m sure houses are cheaper so there’s that. Probably good for retirees.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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Oh my gosh; the humanity of it all. Republican turning against republican.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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BTW, issues like this are one of the ways a city or region (particularly in the west) turns liberal. And no, I'm not talking about the political stances of new residents either. All the new residents could be conservatives, but that would turn the city liberal anyway. Here's why:

When a city like this starts getting more growth than they would like, they start seeking government solutions to try to do something about it. They will either pass some sort of growth management law(s), or try to build new roads, or somehow get the government to do something to either discourage the newcomers from moving in, and/or try to better deal with the effects the newcomers are creating.

This is an entirely new change of attitude from the prevailing laissez-faire/libertarianism that characterizes western conservatism. Instead of "getting the government off the people's backs" (to quote Ronald Reagan), they begin trying to do things to get the government on people's backs.

This has happened dozens of times over in the west. At first people become more comfortable with activist government on the local level ... then that spreads to comfort with government activism on the state level ... and then eventually people finding themselves automatically thinking that government needs to "do something" even on the federal level.

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Consider the welcome mat removed.

‘Go back to California’: Wave of newcomers fuels backlash in Boise

Just consider last week’s mayoral election. It was the most competitive race in recent memory, a referendum on growth in the rapidly expanding capital of Idaho. And candidate Wayne Richey ran on a very simple platform: Stop the California invasion.

His basic plan to fulfill that campaign promise? “Trash the place.”

Richey figured that would be the best way to keep deep-pocketed Golden Staters from moving to his leafy hometown. He blames them for pushing home prices and rents up so high that Boiseans can’t afford to live here on the meager wages most Idaho jobs pay.

At a candidate forum in late October, he had a terse answer for the question: “If you were king or queen for the day, what one thing would you do to improve Boise?”

“A $26-billion wall,” he said, laughing, drawing out each word for maximum emphasis. As in build one. Around Idaho.

...
The most recent Treasure Valley Survey, conducted by the Idaho Policy Institute at Boise State University, does not bode well for anyone who would run this city in coming years. It was conducted in late 2018 and released in June. More than 70% of respondents said the region was growing too fast, compared with only 50% with that view in 2016.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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City planners need to be careful in what they do and not get into the NIMBY mindset by restricting affordable housing where it is needed.
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