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Old 11-13-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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And where is your proof that Ukrainians died as a result of a lack of aid? According to the LA Times & Newsweek, there was no verifiable link between their deaths and lack of aid. In fact, they all quote they died in the line of fire.

Just what you can expect. A play on words from the fake news for the illiterate has been picked up and spread around the internet linking Trump as a responsible party for something he had nothing to do with.
Trump froze the aid. HE did; no one else. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make them fake. Another fact; Ukrainians died because they did not have access to the money to buy the weapons that would help them fight the Russian bullies next door. And that was because of, guess who? Trump. Because Congress already approved the aid package and once again, Trump went over their heads and did what he wanted for his own personal gain. That is the truth.

 
Old 11-13-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Anyone else notice that the Republicans are talking so fast no one even has a chance to answer? They just keep yelling what they want to say, then cut off the answer.
Yes they really don't have questions, they have a spin to sell and that's that. It will work for the base.

I don't know if there is legal cause for impeachment.

But there is no question that Trump was pursuing Biden/Ukraine investigation for his personal agenda.
He chose to use his personal lawyer, not an employee of the federal govt. and had no intention of pursuing a formal investigation until the whistle blower submitted his concerns

Then Trump had to create a spin -- and all of a sudden we have a huge national security issue with Ukraine.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Good one Ratcliffe!!!
“Where is the impeachable offense??!!”
“If they impeach Trump, they have to call Ukrainian President a liar”
(He went on multiple interviews and media saying no pressure, no corruption, no quid pro quo...)
 
Old 11-13-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Wow, was this really his testimony, Schiff's cherry picked witness? This flushes the dems entire narrative about the July 25th phone call down the drain.
Yep, 100%. That is what it seems like.

The Democrats have let sleazy Schiff take down their entire party with this impeachment circus.

Pelosi should've stuck to her original guns to not go down the impeachment road. It is political suicide for a lot of the Democrats involved.

They'll find out once they most likely lose to Trump again in 2020.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Ratcliff just ripped the pathetic Democrats fake QPQ right out of the water! Only a desperate brain-dead Democrat would still be hanging on for impeachment.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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Trump froze the aid. HE did; no one else. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make them fake. Another fact; Ukrainians died because they did not have access to the money to buy the weapons that would help them fight the Russian bullies next door. And that was because of, guess who? Trump. Because Congress already approved the aid package and once again, Trump went over their heads and did what he wanted for his own personal gain. Truth.
That a bad take, you do realize Obama refused to supply lethal arms to Ukraine (Bill Taylor said it today), are you also blaming Obama for deaths in Ukraine during his presidency? Trump approved lethal arms sales to Ukraine in late 2017 to fight Russia. In addition, Ukraine didn’t know the aid was being withheld until August 29th 2019, the aid was released September 11th 2019, so are you saying in that time (barely two weeks) that Ukrainian’s died and Trump is to blame?
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: FL
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Anyone else notice that the Republicans are talking so fast no one even has a chance to answer? They just keep yelling what they want to say, then cut off the answer.
Yes, because they don't have anything.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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They keep stating these 2 guys are the 'star' witnesses -- what trial ever starts with the 'star witnesses'. They are making that up.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Ratcliff just ripped the pathetic Democrats fake QPQ right out of the water! Only a desperate brain-dead Democrat would still be hanging on for impeachment.
The whole Democratic party reeks of desperation, and that is what this impeachment hinges on--emotion, desperation, anger, bitterness and sore loser syndrome.

Unfortunately facts are few and far between here, it appears.

Not a wise road for the Democrats at all.
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