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Old 11-13-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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RATCLIFFE: "Ambassador Taylor and Mr Kent is there anything impeachable from that phone call; anything, anything at all"?..


Kent: {{silence}}
Taylor: {{silence}}





Good night everybody....
It is not up to witnesses to determine what is "impeachable" that is congress's job, thus the question is a non starter.


Unsurprising that Trumpers would push narratives that appeal only to their low information base, but you wont win over independents or moderate republicans that way. In the "playing chess with pigeons" analogy they are effectively playing the part of the pigeons.

 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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Maybe. Probably. I'm not sure what the situation was with foreign aid and Ukraine then, so I can't say for sure. But I have never agreed with all of Obama or any president's decisions. As for your second comment, are you suggesting that people can't die in 13 days of war? Because they certainly can. And whose fault was it when Congress approved the aid and Trump froze it? Trump's. Trump is not above Congress in our government. We have three coequal branches of government: legislative, executive, and judicial. Congress and the president are supposed to be coequal. And so far, none of the Republicans have come up with a good explanation as to why Trump froze the aid at all. The most logical explanation was exactly what Mick Mulvaney said: because he wanted a favor from Zelensky. He only released the aid when staffers became concerned and Trump became concerned about this situation blowing up in his face.
And yes, Democrats talking points to justify their weak arguments to impeach Trump. Something they've being trying to achieve since Trump became the Republican nominee.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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Have you watched any of the hearings this AM? The Republicans have really raised some great points and it all seems like hearsay/opinion. There are no facts.

Where are the facts? You don't impeach a President based on sore loser feelings, that ain't how it works. LOL
I'm shocked... SHOCKED... that Trump supporters find the testimony unconvincing.

Seriously, as if any of you here were going to change your minds no matter what evidence was given. Everything that's been testified has been confirmed. The "heresay" argument is some laughable stuff.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Democrats look NERVOUS and disappointed!
It certainly sounds ridiculous, when these folks are being grilled.

A lot of it sounds like opinion/hearsay/gossip of what went on.

I am not understanding this impeachment push based on this phone conversation. It is becoming more and more evident, based on these first few hours, that Democrats were digging for a reason to impeach, and thought this had the most "sticking power" and ran with it.

Problem is, it's starting to unravel quickly on them. There's not much of anything there regarding wrongdoing.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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It is not up to witnesses to determine what is "impeachable" that is congress's job, thus the question is a non starter.


Unsurprising that Trumpers would push narratives that appeal only to their low information base, but you wont win over independents or moderate republicans that way.
Oh please...


People agree to be witnesses for a crime because they believe a crime has been committed.


They said nothing.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Democrats aren’t just the clown act, they are the whole freaking circus!
lol!...We all know this is the Democrats payback time.


We all saw what happened during the Benghazi hearings(Clinton) and what they did and went through from the Republicans when the Republicans had control of the House of rep.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Oh please...


People agree to be witnesses for a crime because they believe a crime has been committed.


They said nothing.
The judge/defense/prosecution doesn't ask the witness to deliver a verdict on the case, that is nonsensically disconnected from reality.

Nonsensically disconnected from reality is what we have come to expect from Trumpers.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I'm shocked... SHOCKED... that Trump supporters find the testimony unconvincing.

Seriously, as if any of you here were going to change your minds no matter what evidence was given. Everything that's been testified has been confirmed. The "heresay" argument is some laughable stuff.
This makes no sense. "Everything that's been testified has been confirmed."

What? LOL In a circus court like this, yes, yes it has.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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The GOP employed their A-game today. Jim Jordan was devastating.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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Sign behind Nunes and Jordon
“if we don’t impeach him, Trump will be re-elected”
- Al Green
And behind rep Stewart is the sign:

The coup has started, impeachment will follow
-Mark Zaid ( Whistleblower’s Attorney)
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