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Murray specifically points to an article by Laclau and Mouffe in "Marxism Today," in which those scholars wrote that what was needed was to cohere together the various "identity rights" groups who give purpose and drive to the then-morose and dying socialist movements. New energy.
What was needed was to bring all these movements under one umbrella: the umbrella of the socialist struggle. L&M wrote that the new movements "lead us to conceive these movements as an extension of the democratic revolution to a whole new series of social relations."
"Their enemy is defined not by its function of exploitation, but by wielding of a certain power. And this power, too, does not derive from a place in relations of production, but is the outcome of the form of social organisation characteristic of the present society. This society is indeed capitalist, but this is not its only characteristic; it is sexist and patriarchal as well, not to mention racist."
From Lacalue and Mouffe, "Socialist strategy: Where next?"
See also: Laclau and Mouffe, "Hegemony and Socialist Strategy."
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Explain what is Marxist or Socialist about SJW's?
That's the point. They are the franken-monster creation of Marxists who planted the seed of "power dynamics and intersectionalism" and then let their creature run amok.
In many ways, I think SJW theory is very similar to Maoism. Attacking the "Four Olds" was part of the revolution and "Great Leap Forward." Much of what passes as progressive/liberal/intersectional scholarship this days is just a recast of Maoism for the social media age.
Unfortunately for the Marxists, the SJWs were thwarted once again by globalist capitalists, who have since co-opted the SJWs for their own purposes.
Proving once again, I guess, about what a loser strategy Marxism is.
Socialism ruins socialism every time. Failing is the natural end to socialism, no SJWs required. But I'm sure they would help aid in it's demise with their dependency and inability to contribute anything of worth or value to society.
1.) Neither China or the Soviet Union were very communist at all. It could be strongly argued that they were never truly ever communist in the first place.
2.) You are right in the fact that both nations harbored plenty of racist people
3.) Neither country is extreme homogeneous. For the Soviet Union it was quite the opposite. There was no ethnic group in the SU which composed a majority. It was a very very heterogeneous society.
There is no defacto economic position amongst fascist governments nor communist governments. Fascist Spain, Italy and Germany all conducted themselves in radically different ways. Ditto the various communist nations. For example communist Yugoslavia allowed for private property and the private ownership of companies via limitations on the number of workers. The Yugoslavian central government was rather limited in scope instead relying on co-ops to organize themselves independently.
There is no Democrat which proposes the elimination of private property nor advocates for the means of production to be handed over to the workers. I struggle to comprehend why right wing simpletons keep repeating this. Democrats are corporate lackeys which support more liberal social causes while Republicans are corporate lackeys which support more racist and conservative social causes.
You are confusing an economic system with a system of social and political tyranny. Saudi Arabia is a capitalist country with a tyrannical political system.
Saudi Arabia is ruled by a Theocratic and Monarchical government system. You are right about the Soviet Union and China being heterogenous. However Soviet Union consisted of the main Russian Population with minorities such as Cossacks, Tatars, Chechens, Germans, Mongols, Koreans, Kazakhs, Turkmens, Georgians, and etc. China main racial body is the Han Chinese with Mongols, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Cantonese of South China, Harbin Russians, Koreans and so forth. Both Communists of China and Russia are very nationalistic, patriarchal and racists societies. If I'm not mistaken. An SJW was upset about Chernobyl series on HBO. Why? In the scene were Chernobyl board members had a meeting about the nuclear leak and how not to spread panic, while praising Lenin. Each member was an old straight white male Communist party member or official. I told the SJW, well that's Soviet Communism for ya. I told the SJW, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.
Intersectionality is a black feminism theory in which runs on race, class, and gender impacts their position or lot in life. Thus making one more oppressed over others. Intersectionality has become a popular theme on college campuses especially after Trump got elected in 2016. The most oppressed would be an illegal black woman from Africa who crossed the border into Mexico who is also a Muslim and she is a lesbian. This person gets 6 points on the intersectionality oppression scale for being black, being a woman, being poor, being an illegal immigrant, being a Muslim and being LGBT.
Any system that requires the absence or complete denial of human nature, as well as constant violent force being applied to everyone subject to it to function properly is inherently unworkable, destructive nonsense.
This would apply to capitalism.
1.) If we boil down the most fundamental building blocks of human society. From the individual on up, the most common and important social union is between and individual and his family. Kids, wife, parents, brothers, sisters, etc. Stable families operates in a fashion far more akin to communism then to capitalism. A fathers abundance is shared with his wife and children. Work is evenly partitioned around the home. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Sick kids will get more attention then healthy kids etc. Any rational and normal person would view a capitalist run family as being cruel and fundamentally dysfunctional.
2.) The capitalist system only functions when a violent political force is used to hold the working population in place. If your boss is taking advantage of you, you simply cannot go and take the resources from him you feel morally justified to. The long arm of the law will come baring down on you and not on him.
Saudi Arabia is ruled by a Theocratic and Monarchical government system. You are right about the Soviet Union and China being heterogenous. However Soviet Union consisted of the main Russian Population with minorities such as Cossacks, Tatars, Chechens, Germans, Mongols, Koreans, Kazakhs, Turkmens, Georgians, and etc. China main racial body is the Han Chinese with Mongols, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Cantonese of South China, Harbin Russians, Koreans and so forth. Both Communists of China and Russia are very nationalistic, patriarchal and racists societies. If I'm not mistaken. An SJW was upset about Chernobyl series on HBO. Why? In the scene were Chernobyl board members had a meeting about the nuclear leak and how not to spread panic, while praising Lenin. Each member was an old straight white male Communist party member or official. I told the SJW, well that's Soviet Communism for ya. I told the SJW, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.
By 1980 soviet Russia had no comparison to the soviet councils of 1919 or the self managed gulags of the thirties.
the USSR was an evolving society and only briefly implemented communist ideas. After ww2 they used the corporate model to manage production of goods.
This failed because unlike the free market model, the managed structure meant quotas had to be reached by the end of the year which may leave a surplus or a deficit of goods.
Socialism is a complicated set of ideas spreading from anarchists in Spain, market socialism in Yugoslavia, or village industrialization in China. None of them were Communist.
None of that has to do with SJWs who are free trade capitalist who love multiracial urbanism and off shored labor/ corporate consumerism.
By 1980 soviet Russia had no comparison to the soviet councils of 1919 or the self managed gulags of the thirties.
the USSR was an evolving society and only briefly implemented communist ideas. After ww2 they used the corporate model to manage production of goods.
This failed because unlike the free market model, the managed structure meant quotas had to be reached by the end of the year which may leave a surplus or a deficit of goods.
Socialism is a complicated set of ideas spreading from anarchists in Spain, market socialism in Yugoslavia, or village industrialization in China. None of them were Communist.
None of that has to do with SJWs who are free trade capitalist who love multiracial urbanism and off shored labor/ corporate consumerism.
You proved my point from an earlier post. I repped you on this one. Other than that. A true socialist would have forced Apple to build iPhone in America. This wont fit well with modern white Anglo Saxon SJW who need their iPhone fix.
Saudi Arabia is ruled by a Theocratic and Monarchical government system. You are right about the Soviet Union and China being heterogenous. However Soviet Union consisted of the main Russian Population with minorities such as Cossacks, Tatars, Chechens, Germans, Mongols, Koreans, Kazakhs, Turkmens, Georgians, and etc. China main racial body is the Han Chinese with Mongols, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Cantonese of South China, Harbin Russians, Koreans and so forth. Both Communists of China and Russia are very nationalistic, patriarchal and racists societies. If I'm not mistaken.
In the Soviet Union the Russian population never constituted a majority of the population. Yes, Both Communists of China and Russia are / were very nationalistic, patriarchal and racist. Much like their Capitalist Western adversaries.
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An SJW was upset about Chernobyl series on HBO. Why? In the scene were Chernobyl board members had a meeting about the nuclear leak and how not to spread panic, while praising Lenin. Each member was an old straight white male Communist party member or official. I told the SJW, well that's Soviet Communism for ya. I told the SJW, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it.
I struggle to comprehend why people are so worked up about SJW's. They hold no political power and at best marginal social power. Meanwhile corporations, tech companies and the ultra wealthy are abusing power, silencing opposition and consolidating wealth and power. Why worry about what some pink haired college kid has to say when we have real tyrannical powers forming around us?
What we can say is that the SJW's are very authoritarian, and do not really believe in liberalism. It really makes no sense for people on the right to call SJW's or the left as liberals because many aren't.
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