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Old 11-14-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wait... What's this?
Obama signs a directive to coordinate with 5EYES? to do what?
https://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/ppd-41.html


Who is Anthony J. Ferrante? Isn't he Comey's right hand man?
https://www.fticonsulting.com/our-pe...ony-j-ferrante


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Prior to joining FTI Consulting, Mr. Ferrante served as Director for Cyber Incident Response at the U.S. National Security Council at the White House where he coordinated U.S. response to unfolding domestic and international cybersecurity crises and issues. Building on his extensive cybersecurity and incident response experience, he led the development and implementation of Presidential Policy Directive 41 – United States Cyber Incident Coordination, the federal government’s national policy guiding cyber incident response efforts.
There is the NSC again? That's odd?


Coincidence?
Comey's right hand guy
Ferrante is on the NSC where all the leaks have been coming from, where they have access to all of Trumps calls to foreign dignitaries.
We already know the DNC was colluding the Ukraines: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
Conveniently Ferrante is there to implement Directive 41, 4 days prior to the Wikileaks drop, they knew was coming. To coordinate with Australia (Downer) about the Wikileaks dump.

Clapper was secretly in Australia in March 2016? Why? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-...tralia/7251590


No way... No way.... What's this
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...he-white-house


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The report said longtime FBI official Anthony Ferrante worked as a cybersecurity adviser on the National Security Council and was sharing information about Trump and his aides back to FBI headquarters. Ferrante, who after leaving the government joined business-advising firm FTI Consulting was hired by BuzzFeed to verify parts of British ex-spy Christopher Steele's anti-Trump dossier, now may be tied to an investigation into alleged surveillance abuses by the DOJ and the FBI being conducted by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz.
You don't say!
The FBI and Comey has stated over & over, the investigation started in July 2016.


Was Directive 41 created to cover for what they had already been doing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwgGdEvets

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Old 11-14-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Two weeks from now this will be forgotten along with the other conspiracy theories you promote on here. Anything with Nunes name attached to it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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Wait... What's this?
Obama signs a directive to coordinate with 5EYES? to do what?
https://fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/nspd41.pdf


Who is Anthony J. Ferrante? Isn't he Comey's right hand man?
https://www.fticonsulting.com/our-pe...ony-j-ferrante


You don't say!
The FBI and Comey has stated over & over, the investigation started in July 2016.


Was Directive 41 created to cover for what they had already been doing?
Your link took me to NSPD-41, dated December 2004 (Bush administration) regarding maritime security. No reference to '5eyes' or any specific country, no reference to Anthony Ferrante or James Comey or anything of relevance to your post.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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You do know that the Trump administration has access to ALL classified information just by asking the President (he can clear anything apparently). So if the Trump administration thinks there is something then release the evidence as they should have access to ALL emails, schedules, notes, ect.

Conspiracy theories dealing with Trump bore be because he is in control of the entire executive branch, has access to ALL classified information, and can release that information without issue. At this point Trump is the Deep State, he is three years in no more passes. He's the Man, the Boss, the "Government". At this point if something is there and he is not bothering to release the information then I could care less.

A man who is not willing to defend himself cannot expect others to do it for him. At some point you have to put up or shut up. They cant even get the McCabe story right, seems that prosecution is dead in the water after all that noise and complaining.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Your link took me to NSPD-41, dated December 2004 (Bush administration) regarding maritime security. No reference to '5eyes' or any specific country, no reference to Anthony Ferrante or James Comey or anything of relevance to your post.
https://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/ppd-41.html
I fixed it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Two weeks from now this will be forgotten along with the other conspiracy theories you promote on here. Anything with Nunes name attached to it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

More like 2 minutes from now this will be forgotten. I can understand how frustrated Trumpees must be right now, with all of this coming out about his corruption. But, at some point, they are going to have to accept reality and see that we simply can not have a rogue President, running around, doing whatever he feels like, if it is illegal and unethical.

Luckily, the country seems to be heading in a better direction, and getting better by the day. The next few months are going to be very interesting, and reassuring.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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More like 2 minutes from now this will be forgotten. I can understand how frustrated Trumpees must be right now, with all of this coming out about his corruption. But, at some point, they are going to have to accept reality and see that we simply can not have a rogue President, running around, doing whatever he feels like, if it is illegal and unethical.

Luckily, the country seems to be heading in a better direction, and getting better by the day. The next few months are going to be very interesting, and reassuring.
The only corruption I have heard from the 2 star witnesses that have not witnessed anything is, there is a shadow government, that think they are not under the Presidents command. This NSC gang, think they run the show unchecked.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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You do know that the Trump administration has access to ALL classified information just by asking the President (he can clear anything apparently). So if the Trump administration thinks there is something then release the evidence as they should have access to ALL emails, schedules, notes, ect.

Conspiracy theories dealing with Trump bore be because he is in control of the entire executive branch, has access to ALL classified information, and can release that information without issue. At this point Trump is the Deep State, he is three years in no more passes. He's the Man, the Boss, the "Government". At this point if something is there and he is not bothering to release the information then I could care less.

A man who is not willing to defend himself cannot expect others to do it for him. At some point you have to put up or shut up. They cant even get the McCabe story right, seems that prosecution is dead in the water after all that noise and complaining.
The methodology is to plant seeds of doubt or suspicion in people's minds, it has nothing to do with truth or even results. To work best the controversy needs to drag on for a while and be firmly planted in the subject's mind, but it need not ever be resolved.

Trump plays the victim of Deep State, three years on he is firmly in charge, controlling and manipulating policy in every federal department but he pretends that the cabal is still out to get him, to deflect from his own missteps and crimes.

An other good example is the Ukrainian Hunter Biden investigation. The only purpose is to alarm and anger possible Biden-Trump crossover supporters, it has nothing to do with seeking justice. That's why the government of Ukraine simply starting an investigation was not the goal, it was never the goal. The goal was to ANNOUNCE an investigation (which was already planned for a now canceled CNN interview with Volodymyr Zelenskyj), which could then be played up in the right wing conspiracy network. If Ukraine found nothing (as expected), they could always claim the situation was worse than thought and the fix was in! ... and there would be another round of sliming and smearing. Genuine exoneration or conviction have no part in this, only propaganda value matters.

Trump need only suggest something without substantiation, to plant the seeds in people's minds. He can announce tough new restrictions upon lobbyists and then quietly grant waivers to everyone. He can loudly announce an investigation into voter fraud which is quietly later shut down. People remember the various announcements and claims and it convinces them of something that will never bear out in the light of day.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The methodology is to plant seeds of doubt or suspicion in people's minds, it has nothing to do with truth or even results. To work best the controversy needs to drag on for a while and be firmly planted in the subject's mind, but it need not ever be resolved.

Trump plays the victim of Deep State, three years on he is firmly in charge, controlling and manipulating policy in every federal department but he pretends that the cabal is still out to get him, to deflect from his own missteps and crimes.

An other good example is the Ukrainian Hunter Biden investigation. The only purpose is to alarm and anger possible Biden-Trump crossover supporters, it has nothing to do with seeking justice. That's why the government of Ukraine simply starting an investigation was not the goal, it was never the goal. The goal was to ANNOUNCE an investigation (which was already planned for a now canceled CNN interview with Volodymyr Zelenskyj), which could then be played up in the right wing conspiracy network. If Ukraine found nothing (as expected), they could always claim the situation was worse than thought and the fix was in! ... and there would be another round of sliming and smearing. Genuine exoneration or conviction have no part in this, only propaganda value matters.

Trump need only suggest something without substantiation, to plant the seeds in people's minds. He can announce tough new restrictions upon lobbyists and then quietly grant waivers to everyone. He can loudly announce an investigation into voter fraud which is quietly later shut down. People remember the various announcements and claims and it convinces them of something that will never bear out in the light of day.
Recap:
Taylor explained why we need a deepstate shadow government now more than ever, because Trump is out of control.
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