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Old 11-18-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yea, verily. A Bigly surprise.

Last week's testimony was nothing but a pregame show with light hors d'oeuvres..

This week we get meat.
Once this latest hoax is discovered for what it actually is...ie...an effort to deflect from the Democrats and Deep State engaging foreign nationals and nations to interject themselves in the US election to help Hillary win, the efforts by Dems and the Deep State to meddle in the Ukraine election and abuse of authority and corruption by Joe Biden and his Deep State minions to enrich themselves.

How about we impeach Trump for what is really bothering Democrats....Trump. like Democrats that held slaves, has lowered black unemployment to the lowest in history when they would be better offer being paid welfare and reparations.

 
Old 11-18-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Last week's testimony was nothing but a pregame show with light hors d'oeuvres..

This week we get meat.
Even though President Zelensky himself stated weeks ago that there was no pressure from Trump and he did not state anything about bribery or extortion in connection with Trump.

Yes, this will be interesting.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Once this latest hoax is discovered for what it actually is...ie...an effort to deflect from the Democrats and Deep State engaging foreign nationals and nations to interject themselves in the US election to help Hillary win, the efforts by Dems and the Deep State to meddle in the Ukraine election and abuse of authority and corruption by Joe Biden and his Deep State minions to enrich themselves.

How about we impeach Trump for what is really bothering Democrats....Trump. like Democrats that held slaves, has lowered black unemployment to the lowest in history when they would be better offer being paid welfare and reparations.
Should congress withhold aid to Ukraine until Zelensky testifies before congress?
 
Old 11-18-2019, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Looks like Tuesday are more fact witnesses.
Sondland will have to change his tune or risk perjury charges. His lawyers must be having a lot of fun with him. The billing Hrs. will be HUGE.

Cooper and Hale will be showing the money stopping and why.

Hill will be explaining why they had to get out of the WH to avoid the criminal activity.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Should congress withhold aid to Ukraine until Zelensky testifies before congress?
No.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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This weeks impeachment witness line-up:

Tuesday AM: -Lt. Col Alexander Vindman and Jennifer Williams

Vindman is the National Security Council's top Ukraine expert and a decorated Army veteran. He directly listened into the July call. During the closed-door hearings, he testified that acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney "coordinated" a plan to condition a White House meeting for Zelensky on an investigation into the Bidens.

Williams is an aide to Vice President Pence. She also listened into the July call, which she said was "unusual" and "shed some light on possible other motivations behind a security assistance hold."


Tuesday PM: -Kurt Volker and Tim Morrison

Volker, the former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine, discussed Rudy Giuliani's involvement with Ukraine during his closed-door testimony.

Morrison is the National Security Council's former Russia and Europe director, who said he did not find the July call inappropriate, but confirmed other key instances at the heart of the impeachment inquiry in his closed-door testimony.



Wednesday AM: -Gordon Sondland

Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, is expected to be the week's biggest witness. He revised his closed-door testimony to state that he told an aide to Zelensky that military assistance would not be released until Zelensky issued a statement agreeing to investigate Burisma, a gas company with ties to Biden's son.



Wednesday PM: -Laura Cooper and David Hale

Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of defense, said in her closed-door testimony that Trump directed the freezing of military aid via the Office of Management and Budget over corruption concerns.

Hale, the undersecretary of state for political affairs, spoke to what many officials described as Yovanovitch's questionable removal as ambassador to Ukraine during his closed-door testimony.



Thursday: -Fiona Hill

Hill, Trump's former Russia adviser, discussed in her closed-door testimony how former national security adviser John Bolton was worried by the shadow diplomacy being conducted by Mulvaney, Sondland and Giuliani in Ukraine.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachm...e89fa5aa0.html


Will any of these " witnesses " say that The POTUS himself told the Ukraine President that if you do not investigate the Biden's you will not receive the military aid ? Will they say that they heard this while having both parties on the phone ? Do they have evidence of that statement being made to the Ukraine President ?

Doubtful. Because it never happened.

Another week of collective speculation, gossip, innuendo, and three card monte type presentation with the American people as the mark.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Will any of these " witnesses " say that The POTUS himself told the Ukraine President that if you do not investigate the Biden's you will not receive the military aid ? Will they say that they heard this while having both parties on the phone ? Do they have evidence of that statement being made to the Ukraine President ?

Doubtful. Because it never happened.

Another week of collective speculation, gossip, innuendo, and three card monte type presentation with the American people as the mark.
Actually that could happen on Tuesday.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Even though President Zelensky himself stated weeks ago that there was no pressure from Trump and he did not state anything about bribery or extortion in connection with Trump.

Yes, this will be interesting.
The " victim" refuses to cooperate. Time for the Dems to make up excuses for that , and just keep the pedal to the metal, and hoping no one has paid attention to the victim.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:04 AM
 
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Will any of these " witnesses " say that The POTUS himself told the Ukraine President that if you do not investigate the Biden's you will not receive the military aid ? Will they say that they heard this while having both parties on the phone ? Do they have evidence of that statement being made to the Ukraine President ?

Doubtful. Because it never happened.

Another week of collective speculation, gossip, innuendo, and three card monte type presentation with the American people as the mark.
Ah... yes. Look at the expected testimony from Sondland on Wednesday. Who only could have given Sondland the authority to say that? If Sondland acted on his own, then I would guess Sondland would be facing prosecution, yes?
 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Even though President Zelensky himself stated weeks ago that there was no pressure from Trump and he did not state anything about bribery or extortion in connection with Trump.

Yes, this will be interesting.

Yes, that is what President Zelensky said. Zelensky, the president of a weak newborn country dependent on us for military aid to protect his citizens from dying in a terrible bloody war, stated in a televised press conference that he was not pressured to investigate Trump, the most powerful man in the world's, political rival; the man who could delay or revoke such military aid at his whim (and already did) despite the aid being appropriated by Congress already It's completely impossible for him to be pressured by Trump twice, right? Besides, people never, ever lie on camera!
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