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Old 11-26-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
by conspiracy theories, you mean facts not convenient to Biden and the Democrats.

Biden's on video bragging about bribing the Ukraine. It isn't a conspiracy theory to talk about it and investigate it.
Do you have a link? I have not seen that video yet.

 
Old 11-26-2019, 09:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
by conspiracy theories, you mean facts not convenient to Biden and the Democrats.

Biden's on video bragging about bribing the Ukraine. It isn't a conspiracy theory to talk about it and investigate it.
The reason there is video that Biden -- acting on behalf of the USA govt. House & Senate approved, bi-partisan.....is because it wasn't pressuring Ukraine officials to act on an agenda for HIS personal gain.

The USA's policy of insisting Ukraine pursue corruption within their country/govt. more aggressively was a policy that was supported globally by other nations and world entities (monetary fund groups, etc.)

The Republicans had no problem at the time with Biden and his actions -- even with Hunter Biden on the Board of Burisma.

It was only after Trump tried to 'create' a scandal to hurt Biden (Remember Biden even before announcing his candidacy was polling at double digits over Trump).......

That's not okay.

Is it impeachable -- I don't know.

But the two aren't the same and we all know that.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 09:32 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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So many people have been thrown under the bus it's going to need new suspension. :-P
 
Old 11-26-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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So many people have been thrown under the bus it's going to need new suspension. :-P
You'd think the brakes have been fixed with all of them down there, but it just keeps plowing them down.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 09:52 PM
 
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Trump: "Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great."

Well, we DID read the transcript.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
by conspiracy theories, you mean facts not convenient to Biden and the Democrats.

Biden's on video bragging about bribing the Ukraine. It isn't a conspiracy theory to talk about it and investigate it.
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
Do you have a link? I have not seen that video yet.
Here's a little video to watch:

DEBUNKED
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:23 PM
 
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I have to give Trump credit. He has really proved a lot of Americans to be the stupidest and most gullible people of any in a first world country.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:25 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Cohen was convicted for tax evasion....nothing to do with Trump so your lie that Trump shoved him under the bus makes no sense.

The people who threw Cohen under the bus are the Democrat partisans in the justice department who targeted Cohen because he was one of Trump's lawyers.

They wanted to squeeze Cohen to out Trump on some crime that Trump actually committed but Cohen didn't have anything.



Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, pleaded guilty Tuesday afternoon to eight counts of tax evasion, bank fraud and campaign finance violations, including two counts related to hush-money payments made to women — and said he made the payments "at the direction of a candidate," meaning Trump.--NBC News
 
Old 11-27-2019, 02:38 AM
 
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ClemVegas: Coming in here and throwing around accusations that where debunked on this very forum weeks ago is not helping the discussion.

Everything you just wrote is false! Proven false! And Debunked!
Please go back and read some other topics..
 
Old 11-27-2019, 05:42 AM
 
Location: NC
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Default As predicted, Trump is sacrificing Rudy G. Base, how do you defend his lying THIS TIME?

I called this when the story first broke. I said then that he'll throw Rudy under the bus, and now he has.
Google search of many stories


Here's my question for the the blind and faithful base:
--Trump is stating that he had nothing to do with sending Rudy to Ukraine, even though HIS OWN RECORD of the call states that he told Ze that he's sending Rudy.

This is probably not the most blatant lie Trump has told (by a long-shot), but it's pretty damn black and white. It's in writing, in a document that Trump has touted as "read the transcript", that he says is valid proof. Now he's saying he never said that.

Is THIS enough proof for his base that he will say whatever he needs to say at a given moment, and he has no base in the truth? If you don't believe this is evidence of him blatantly lying about the Ukraine situation, how do you back up your stance?
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