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Old 11-17-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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The data released Saturday by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) shows only arrests or apprehensions for a criminal offense or an immigration-related civil offense and does not take into account whether there was a conviction, acquittal, dismissal or a lessening of charges.

Did you know that anyone who has served a jail term of more than one year for a criminal offense is ineligible for DACA.
Are you saying that an illegal immigrant who commits a crime that carries only a 6-month sentence is still eligible for DACA??
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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So we should excuse illegal immigrants (who SHOULD be living squeaky clean lives given their precarious status) if their crimes aren't violent? Running red lights isn't violent, and Americans die as a result. Breaking and entering a house to steal jewelry isn't violent, and Americans are harmed as a result. Shoplifting from a store isn't violent, but Americans have to pay more in goods to make us the "theft loss."

ANY illegal immigrant who commits a crime that has negative repercussions on American citizens should be deported. Period.


When Obama was president, he told law enforcement agencies that arrest illegals for felonies to bump the crime down to a misdemeanor if they could find a way to do so. With a felony record, illegals could never get amnesty thus if the crime is a misdemeanor, they are still amnesty eligible.

One of the worst cases I saw was a couple of years back when an illegal murdered two doctors in Boston. It turned out that the illegal just got out of jail for robbing a bank. A leftist loon judge only sentenced him to 364 days in jail for robbing that bank! In her vile, twisted reasoning, she said that if she gave him 365 days or more as a sentence, he would never be allowed to receive amnesty. How sick is that?

Now she has blood on her hands. The illegal got out and murdered those two doctors. If she had given him a proper sentence, he would still be in jail.

We all have to wonder how many illegals (DACAs included) have had felonies bumped down to misdemeanors.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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When Obama was president, he told law enforcement agencies that arrest illegals for felonies to bump the crime down to a misdemeanor if they could find a way to do so. With a felony record, illegals could never get amnesty thus if the crime is a misdemeanor, they are still amnesty eligible.

One of the worst cases I saw was a couple of years back when an illegal murdered two doctors in Boston. It turned out that the illegal just got out of jail for robbing a bank. A leftist loon judge only sentenced him to 364 days in jail for robbing that bank! In her vile, twisted reasoning, she said that if she gave him 365 days or more as a sentence, he would never be allowed to receive amnesty. How sick is that?

Now she has blood on her hands. The illegal got out and murdered those two doctors. If she had given him a proper sentence, he would still be in jail.

We all have to wonder how many illegals (DACAs included) have had felonies bumped down to misdemeanors.
And you know this how?


New Data Shows Criminal Arrest Histories of DACA Requestors


"Of the total 888,765 DACA requestors, 797,297 had no arrests or apprehensions, and 710, 842 were approved."

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Old 11-17-2019, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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The majority do not have an arrest record and, of those that do, the majority of arrest records are for non-violent offenses.
So sick of this dismissal of non-violent offenses as they don't negatively affect society. Drunk driving is a non-violent offense, yet if you're in the country illegally you have no business putting people at risk like that. Identity theft is also non-violent, yet ruins the lives of American citizens. Theft, harassment, threats, gang graffiti, litter/illegal dumping, fraud, indecent exposure, etc. are all non-violent but not non-harmful. Would you like to be on the receiving end of any of these or live in a neighborhood where it's rampant? If they're here illegally they should be behaving BETTER than citizens, as they are uninvited guests in our country.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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And you know this how?


New Data Shows Criminal Arrest Histories of DACA Requestors


"Of the total 888,765 DACA requestors, 797,297 had no arrests or apprehensions, and 710, 842 were approved."
Oh you left out this part:

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Almost 8-percent of total DACA requestors (59,786 individuals) had arrest records as of the date the systems were queried, which included offenses such as assault and battery, rape, murder, and drunk driving, among others. “Requestors†includes individuals approved and denied DACA.

Of those individuals whose DACA requests were approved and had one or more arrests or apprehensions, 53,792 were arrested or apprehended prior to their most recent approval.

Approximately 13-percent (7,814) of approved DACA requestors with an arrest had an arrest after their grant was approved and prior to renewal.

54.8-percent of DACA requestors with more than one arrest (17,079) most recently had a DACA case status of “approved†as of the date the systems were queried.

199 individuals who requested DACA had 10 or more arrests. Of those, 51 most recently had DACA case status of “approved,†as of the date the systems were queried.
So when they say all DACA recipients have a clean background, it's a lie.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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SC decision may make us far safer from the 80,000 DACA criminals.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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So basically there is less arrest records among DACA population than there is general American population. That's what I thought, more scaremongering about foreigners.
Yeah, undocumented aliens are the most law abiding people in our society. They well know that drawing the attention of the cops means they are gone. The population of Hahvahd commits more crimes than DACA kids.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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But let's keep allowing them to enter the country while giving them free healthcare, free college for their kids and allowing them to vote.

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Who didn't see that coming?
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:58 PM
 
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Yeah, undocumented aliens are the most law abiding people in our society. They well know that drawing the attention of the cops means they are gone. The population of Hahvahd commits more crimes than DACA kids.
No such thing as an undocumented alien. I don't care how much or how little illegal aliens commit crimes including the DACAs they have no business being here and should be sent back to their homelands where they belong.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...weve-been-told

https://www.constitutionparty.com/il...e-all-victims/
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Oh you left out this part:



So when they say all DACA recipients have a clean background, it's a lie.
One, I didn't leave anything out, the link is there for anyone to read. Second, there's this thing in math, called lesser than and greater than which is clearly displayed in the report.

Finally, just curious though, you were not impressed with the 5% that are business owners in the other thread, saying that is a tiny amount, yet the 8% that have had a bump with the law, that's an impressive percentage for you?
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If they're here illegally they should be behaving BETTER than citizens, as they are uninvited guests in our country.
Is There a Connection Between Undocumented Immigrants and Crime? (log in pay wall)

"Many argued it was unauthorized immigrants who increase crime, not immigrants over all. An analysis derived from new data is now able to help address this question, suggesting that growth in illegal immigration does not lead to higher local crime rates."


from one of the links in that story:


The Myth of the Criminal Immigrant

"As of 2017, according to Gallup polls, almost half of Americans agreed that immigrants make crime worse. But is it true that immigration drives crime? Many studies have shown that it does not.

Immigrant populations in the United States have been growing fast for decades now. Crime in the same period, however, has moved in the opposite direction, with the national rate of violent crime today well below what it was in 1980."


Speaking of criminal, the u.s. continues to collect the undocumented payroll taxes without giving to them representation. So much for no taxation without representation.
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