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Old 12-26-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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And I brought up there was a time when alot of immigrants who became citizens voted GOP back in the 70s and 80s. That has changed. I keep bringing that up and you keep ignoring it. And I bring up the Black vote because Blacks vote left more than anyone else in this country. Maybe instead of complaining about who people vote for, maybe you should ask yourself what can be done to get people to want to for GOP, because it appears that you're obsessed with who people vote for.
Exactly. I've been asking that question constantly and asking - "What are you GOP folks doing to get back the many Asian and Hispanic voters who used to vote Republican?" I can't get a straight answer.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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Exactly. I've been asking that question constantly and asking - "What are you GOP folks doing to get back the many Asian and Hispanic voters who used to vote Republican?" I can't get a straight answer.
That is sadly the point. The premise of this thread is "the only way the GOP will win is if this country is 90% White again". This is why neither of us can get a straight answer. The complaint isn't just "minorities vote for the left". The complaint is "minorities are holding us back". There is no real desire to make minorities WANT to vote GOP. Rather, it's "the fewer of you the better". Getting a straight answer from someone is difficult when they see you as the problem rather than a potential solution to the problem.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:24 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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The premise of this thread is "the only way the GOP will win is if this country is 90% White again". This is why neither of us can get a straight answer.
This ^

This is the main public relations issue that GOP refuses to address.... some say they don't understand why minorities don't support the GOP... and the best answer they have is that minorities are "brainwashed" by liberal media. That answer paints minorities as gullible and no better than the stupid "deplorable" statement. That is so far from the truth... it simply makes the GOP seem like the party of whites.

The GOP has no one else to blame than themselves.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:25 PM
 
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Really? You really believe that the only thing minorities are voting for is free stuff? You have just demostrated why more Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have turned away from voting GOP. Why vote for the party who is more likely to deride you and assume you only want "free stuff"?
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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That is sadly the point. The premise of this thread is "the only way the GOP will win is if this country is 90% White again". This is why neither of us can get a straight answer. The complaint isn't just "minorities vote for the left". The complaint is "minorities are holding us back". There is no real desire to make minorities WANT to vote GOP. Rather, it's "the fewer of you the better". Getting a straight answer from someone is difficult when they see you as the problem rather than a potential solution to the problem.
And as long as that is the message being sent, I have difficulty seeing the Trump base expand to include larger numbers of minorities or even white college graduates.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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That is sadly the point. The premise of this thread is "the only way the GOP will win is if this country is 90% White again". This is why neither of us can get a straight answer. The complaint isn't just "minorities vote for the left". The complaint is "minorities are holding us back". There is no real desire to make minorities WANT to vote GOP. Rather, it's "the fewer of you the better". Getting a straight answer from someone is difficult when they see you as the problem rather than a potential solution to the problem.
True...racial undertones on so many posts here complaining without looking at constructive solutions to improve things.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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Of course they do. They are neither stupid nor ignorant of how the world works. But thanks for confirming what we all knew. Immigration debate has nothing to do with justice, economics or anything other than partisan winning thinking for Republicans.
You mean "Democrats".
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Really? You really believe that the only thing minorities are voting for is free stuff? You have just demostrated why more Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have turned away from voting GOP. Why vote for the party who is more likely to deride you and assume you only want "free stuff"?
It's not a matter of presuming anything. We observe that most blacks and Hispanics vote for the Democrats because they transfer wealth to them. If you don't want people to think you are voting for free stuff, don't do it. The problem is with those non-white voters, not their victims.
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Old 12-26-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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This ^

This is the main public relations issue that GOP refuses to address.... some say they don't understand why minorities don't support the GOP... and the best answer they have is that minorities are "brainwashed" by liberal media. That answer paints minorities as gullible and no better than the stupid "deplorable" statement. That is so far from the truth... it simply makes the GOP seem like the party of whites.

The GOP has no one else to blame than themselves.
I don't think the GOP will address it. This is my opinion of why it is. Someone can feel free to prove me wrong. It involves fear of losing a certain political base. My theory is that many within the GOP find it too risky to attract large numbers of minorities.
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