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There lays the problem. This attitude of "what's in it for me". You can't speak for everybody so why do so? I vote based on what is best for our nation and those things are pretty simple and basic and impacts all of us.
Sure you have the right to be selfish if you choose to be but for me I don't think that way or vote that way. If it's bad for our nation and anyone with common sense can tell what is and what isn't I don't vote for any politician who doesn't consider the well being of our nation as a whole. Those who promise favors for one special group, bends our laws for them or other issues that impact our nation as a whole negatively I would never vote for. If more Americans would do the same we'd be more united than divided.
I have no qualms on how I choose to cast my vote. I look at what's good for the nation but I look out for my own well being as well. You are not going to make me feel guilty. Again, we all think about self-interest TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. Let me repeat it for you just in case you didn't get it the first couple of times. In fact, I'll give you the AMPLIFIED version of it. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT (TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, UP TO A POINT, PARTIALLY, IN SOME MEASURE, ON SOME LEVEL). I NEVER said it was the sole decision on voting. IT'S HUMAN NATURE (IT'S COMMON, BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER) to think about the well-being of yourself and those whom you associate with. If it could sign language it, I would.
P.S. Having different voting options and having the right to vote for who we deem best is one of the good things about this country. Your posts just reek of "They don't vote the way I think they should, I don't like it!" You are really dense. It's not your job to dictate how people vote. Who they vote for. Why they vote the way they do. What political party or organization they align themselves with. People can vote for who they wish.
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Significance: Although the territory of the United States was originally settled in ancient times by the Asian ancestors of modern Native Americans, European immigrants of the seventeenth through early twentieth centuries dominated the landscape and brought with them the culture and institutions to which other modern immigrants have had to adapt.
Okay, lets be --- how many undocumented European Immigrants have been placed (with or without legal representation) in dentition centers and or deported by ICE?
"European immigration has continued into the first decade of the twenty-first century, when Europeans were still making up between 15 and 20 percent of the immigrants admitted to the United States. This pattern appeared likely to continue into the foreseeable future." (from my link)
It has already been established that people (who have arrived by air, water, or land) are living here illegally if they are not here by invitation --- it has also been established that there are 11 million undocumented migrants in the u.s. (i'm not going to google, for this part) People are going to try and tell me with straight face, that all of those 11 million people are Hispanic? and White folks wait for an invitation? [they didn't wait for one before, why would they do it now]
I recently attended a seminar and one statement that I obtained from that event is that an estimated 25% of Chinese and Koreans are here illegally. Many of them stay well past the three months that they can stay w/o a green card.
Why do minorities view the GOP as bigoted, racists? There is nothing to back that up except for them believing the propaganda of the Democrats. Give me one good example that makes the GOP those things. It's more like they object to the GOP because they aren't the party of socialism. Let's be honest here.
Why don't white people ask minorities these questions directly? Neither party is w/o critique (Democratic or Republic), but everything coming from the Democratic side isn't lies and everything coming from the GOP isn't true. In reality, they are two sides of the same coin. One party is simply more subtle in their motives. The real reason some white people don't ask minorities themselves is because they want somebody parroting their rhetoric. Let's be honest here.
I think everybody, regardless of how selfless they are. Regardless of how much they love their nation, votes based on self-interest to a certain extent. It's human nature. Nothing more nothing less. We are all somewhat selfISH regardless of how selfLESS we THINK we are. When I'm casting a vote, I'm looking at what we be beneficial to the nation, but I'm also looking at what's going to be beneficial to me! Does it mean that I don't care about anyone else? No. It just means that I do think about my well-being when I'm casting a vote. That's it. And I have every right to do so.
Everyone has a bit of self interest in mind when they vote. It depends on what it is. Looking out for one's own interests isn't a sign of hate towards the USA.
Consider it this way. Sometimes you have to ask if what's best for the country as a whole is actually best for you. You have to ask what is important for you.
I have no qualms on how I choose to cast my vote. I look at what's good for the nation but I look out for my own well being as well. You are not going to make me feel guilty. Again, we all think about self-interest TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. Let me repeat it for you just in case you didn't get it the first couple of times. In fact, I'll give you the AMPLIFIED version of it. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT (TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, UP TO A POINT, PARTIALLY, IN SOME MEASURE, ON SOME LEVEL). I NEVER said it was the sole decision on voting. IT'S HUMAN NATURE (IT'S COMMON, BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER) to think about the well-being of yourself and those whom you associate with. If it could sign language it, I would.
P.S. Having different voting options and having the right to vote for who we deem best is one of the good things about this country. Your posts just reek of "They don't vote the way I think they should, I don't like it!" You are really dense. It's not your job to dictate how people vote. Who they vote for. Why they vote the way they do. What political party or organization they align themselves with. People can vote for who they wish.
All I was doing is telling you how I vote. I do not consider myself personally nor my race when I vote. I consider the issues and politicians who support issues that I know will benefit our nation as a whole not those who serve special interest groups or issues that are bad for our country as a whole. So no, it isn't human nature for all of us to vote based on self interests. No, based on what I just explained my posts do no reek of just objecting to how someone else votes. I don't understand how some people vote the way they do but that doesn't mean I would deny them the right to do so. You are reading far too much into this.
And once again, where did I say that people can't vote for whomever or whatever they wish? You're just spinning my words now.
Why don't white people ask minorities these questions directly? Neither party is w/o critique (Democratic or Republic), but everything coming from the Democratic side isn't lies and everything coming from the GOP isn't true. In reality, they are two sides of the same coin. One party is simply more subtle in their motives. The real reason some white people don't ask minorities themselves is because they want somebody parroting their rhetoric. Let's be honest here.
Why should we ask minorities why they vote the way they do? We already know why and I have stated as such.
Everyone has a bit of self interest in mind when they vote. It depends on what it is. Looking out for one's own interests isn't a sign of hate towards the USA.
Consider it this way. Sometimes you have to ask if what's best for the country as a whole is actually best for you. You have to ask what is important for you.
Yes we do on some level. Even if we are thinking about a greater good...we are motivate (to some extent) by our own well-being. It’s not “selfish” to care about your well-being.
All I was doing is telling you how I vote. I do not consider myself personally nor my race when I vote. I consider the issues and politicians who support issues that I know will benefit our nation as a whole not those who serve special interest groups or issues that are bad for our country as a whole. So no, it isn't human nature for all of us to vote based on self interests. No, based on what I just explained my posts do no reek of just objecting to how someone else votes. I don't understand how some people vote the way they do but that doesn't mean I would deny them the right to do so. You are reading far too much into this.
And once again, where did I say that people can't vote for whomever or whatever they wish? You're just spinning my words now.
Says the one who ignores parts of my statements. I’m not spinning anything. I’m paraphrasing. There’s a difference.
Yes we do on some level. Even if we are thinking about a greater good...we are motivate (to some extent) by our own well-being. It’s not “selfish” to care about your well-being.
We, we, we. Speak for yourself! Not everyone thinks that way. Yes, it is selfish if you vote for policies and politicians that only benefit you and/or your race while it's not good for the country as a whole. Geez, how hard is that to understand?
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You can't speak for everybody so why do so? I vote based on what is best for our nation and those things are pretty simple and basic and impacts all of us. 
