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I am hardly a Biden fool. I've already said I am not supporting Biden and Biden's position does not go far enough.
But it is a fact that Biden's position goes further than Trump's.
You do know this thread is about Biden and his stance, not Trump, right? What I stated was that Biden is going to continue a policy of incarcerating adults for possessing marijuana, which is the truth. Schedule 3 = jail time and fines. I'm sorry you have such a difficult time understanding this.
I think we can both agree, it should have been legalized years ago. Democrats have had all the opportunities in the world to do so. Instead, we get bigger government, more pointless wars abroad, more illegals, and more of America circling the drain while the government punishes people for ingesting a benign, harmless plant. I think it's clear the government has bigger responsibilities to worry about. Still waiting for them to stop our infrastructure from rotting, but I guess that's asking too much.
You do know this thread is about Biden and his stance, not Trump, right?
You know almost all of my posts have been about Biden's position on the issue, right?
You call me a Biden stooge when I discuss the thread topic and then claim I'm going off topic when I clarify my position on the broader issue. I guess I will bow out of this thread at this point.
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What I stated was that Biden is going to continue a policy of incarcerating adults for possessing marijuana, which is the truth.
No it's not. Virtually no one is prosecuted at the federal level for possession.
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Schedule 3 = jail time and fines. I'm sorry you have such a difficult time understanding this.
Jail time and fines for possession will still be controlled for the most part by state law. Schedule 3 will at least allow for greater research and banking access for legal businesses, which is further than Trump is going.
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I think we can both agree, it should have been legalized years ago.
We can.
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Democrats have had all the opportunities in the world to do so. Instead, we get bigger government, more pointless wars abroad, more illegals, and more of America circling the drain while the government punishes people for ingesting a benign, harmless plant.
Republicans have also had all the opportunities in the world to do so and have failed to do so.
At least the Democratic party has now evolved on the issue to the point where most people in the party favor legalization. I believe the ultimate 2020 D nominee will favor it as well.
The R party will continue to not do so because of religious social conservatives.
You know almost all of my posts have been about Biden's position on the issue, right?
You call me a Biden stooge when I discuss the thread topic and then claim I'm going off topic when I clarify my position on the broader issue. I guess I will bow out of this thread at this point.
No it's not. Virtually no one is prosecuted at the federal level for possession.
Jail time and fines for possession will still be controlled for the most part by state law. Schedule 3 will at least allow for greater research and banking access for legal businesses, which is further than Trump is going.
We can.
Republicans have also had all the opportunities in the world to do so and have failed to do so.
At least the Democratic party has now evolved on the issue to the point where most people in the party favor legalization. I believe the ultimate 2020 D nominee will favor it as well.
The R party will continue to not do so because of religious social conservatives.
If you are waiting for a republican to legalize marijuana, you are going to be waiting your whole life. It is not their fight. This is the democrats fight to fight, and they refuse to do so on the federal level. If someone is growing weed for personal consumption in any state where it is "legal", and the feds find out, that person is in a world of trouble. That is the law, and the democrats have stood by it for 8 years when Obama was president.
If you are waiting for a republican to legalize marijuana, you are going to be waiting your whole life. It is not their fight. This is the democrats fight to fight, and they refuse to do so on the federal level. If someone is growing weed for personal consumption in any state where it is "legal", and the feds find out, that person is in a world of trouble. That is the law, and the democrats have stood by it for 8 years when Obama was president.
The dems also targeted opioids when Obama was in office...these were some of the toughest drug laws ever created!
NO party really supports ending the war on drugs in anyway, its just too important to law enforcement.
If you are waiting for a republican to legalize marijuana, you are going to be waiting your whole life. It is not their fight. This is the democrats fight to fight, and they refuse to do so on the federal level. If someone is growing weed for personal consumption in any state where it is "legal", and the feds find out, that person is in a world of trouble. That is the law, and the democrats have stood by it for 8 years when Obama was president.
So you admit, Republicans will never allow it to be legalized. Therefore, anybody who wants it legal needs to vote Democratic.
This is why I think we are still 10-15 years minimum from legalization. The Christian Right in the current era is still too powerful.
So you admit, Republicans will never allow it to be legalized. Therefore, anybody who wants it legal needs to vote Democratic.
This is why I think we are still 10-15 years minimum from legalization. The Christian Right in the current era is still too powerful.
They will allow it to be legalized, as they have already done on the state level. Many will gladly vote to legalize it, if they ever get the opportunity to vote on it. But they are not going to push a measure forward to legalize it. It's not their fight to fight. It is the democrats who consistently give lip service and hint that they will, but so far, they have failed to do so. The republicans have not stood in the way of the will of the people. That is something the democrats have been doing ever since Trump was elected.
What a silly thing to suggest! When prohibition ended, did all those bathtub gin drinkers suddenly move on to other criminal activity? Was it a gateway to more damaging drugs or something?
Andy, if you are in jail on federal drug charges you were not busted with a bag pot or even selling drugs on the corner.
Andy, if you are in jail on federal drug charges you were not busted with a bag pot or even selling drugs on the corner.
After states decriminalized, many ordinary pot heads got involved with growing. Those people are at great risk of being busted and sentenced to years in prison for a harmless, non violent crime. Most of those people are growing for personal use. That is not right that they are treated the same as someone with a meth lab.
After states decriminalized, many ordinary pot heads got involved with growing. Those people are at great risk of being busted and sentenced to years in prison for a harmless, non violent crime. Most of those people are growing for personal use. That is not right that they are treated the same as someone with a meth lab.
Neither should be treated as criminals actually!
Majority of the time, 'low level' dealers are just addicts themselves, trying to feed their own addiction, not until you get up the ranks into the mid level guys did you see people selling that do not use.
Majority of the time, 'low level' dealers are just addicts themselves, trying to feed their own addiction, not until you get up the ranks into the mid level guys did you see people selling that do not use.
If you're going to legalize meth, than I would appreciate it if lefties would keep their hands off of our guns. I demand the right to defend myself in a drug infused America.
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