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Old 11-20-2019, 05:03 AM
 
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Then why has their testimony mainly centered around their "feelings?" If Dems want the witnesses' "feelings" to matter, they then also have to accept their "feelings" that Trump did not commit QPQ or bribery.
Their testimony has centered around what they saw and what they did. While a smattering of their subjective views has made it in to provide context for their actions (example: “I was alarmed by what I heard on the call, so I reported it to John Eisenberg”), “feelings” has not been the focal point, or even a material component, of their testimony.

 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:05 AM
 
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Republicans join Trump on the road to Putin.
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/sta...80049934729216
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Their testimony has centered around what they saw and what they did.
OK, and ALL testified they saw (or heard, as applicable) no bribery and no QPQ.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Republicans join Trump on the road to Putin.
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/sta...80049934729216
Still stuck on Russia Russia Russia.

The Soviets contaminated the left in this country LONG AGO, and you're exhibit A.

Poor thing.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:31 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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The witnesses were asked point blank during the public hearing if they would classify Trump's phone call to Zelensky as QPQ or bribery. They've all testified that they would not.
Once again, these are fact based witnesses. These witnesses do not determine charges, nor do any witnesses in a trial. They said they were not legal experts. They are there to discuss what they saw, heard, and did; nothing else. Determining the charges levied against a defendant, if any, is the job of the House.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:32 AM
 
Location: The 719
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The democrats find a way to look sound and act more and more idiotic everyday.

I'm going to record the proceedings today.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Once again, these are fact based witnesses. These witnesses do not determine charges, nor do any witnesses in a trial. They said they were not legal experts. They are there to discuss what they saw, heard, and did; nothing else. Determining the charges levied against a defendant, if any, is the job of the House.
Moving those goalposts. Wow.

What a farce this whole thing is.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:38 AM
 
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I’m done watching live. It’s fun to see Schiff blink like caution light when he doesn’t like answer, makes me really want to play poker with him, but really it is just annoying. No one is going to change their mind, it is hysterical to see each side take the exact same quote and put a different spin on it.

The bottom line is:
  • Trump lacks finesse when he speaks so half of what he says comes off as insulting whether he means it or not. He is his own worse enemy.
  • Something needs to be done so that there can not be another Hunter Biden situation because that whole thing just reeks of corruption despite all the media claiming differently.
  • Some of these career folks, including the LTC, could use a refresher on who sets foreign policy.
  • LTC Vindman is the original gossiper to the “whistleblower” and everyone knows who he is, no matter how they are pretending they don’t.
  • The president and buddies were up to no good and yes, were probably inappropriate - but it is not enough to justify this impeachment.
  • Adam Schiff, some members of his staff, and the “whistleblower” were up to no good.
  • It sucks they are doing this 11 months before the election.
  • I was the only person I personally know who has been paying much attention and now even I am bored to death.
Good summary.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Today we get to see another fact witness.
So far, Trump is looking real bad.
Acting like a low life mobster in Queens instead of the POTUS.

Trump is unable to grow into the position.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The democrats find a way to look sound and act more and more idiotic everyday.

I'm going to record the proceedings today.
Obama:
- on a hot mic promised Putin he would help him after our election and he did
-refused to provide military aid to Ukraine for 8 years
- dared Putin to invade Russia and they did whilst he did nothing
- engaged Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 US election
- meddled in Ukraine election
- allowed Biden to quid pro quo Ukraine

So let's impeach Trump.
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