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Old 11-20-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's how its panning out. Less money = lower budgets. You can pretend it is not happening, and repeat it 50 times (like you always do), but it wont make it true.
Checked my alma mater (a world-ranked research university). Enrollment is up.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:40 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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No, you didn't show anything showing the loss is due to it, you only showed something showing out of State kids pay more, which has always been the case.

The reasons were explained: Rhetoric from the WH, gun violence, visa issues, and maybe I could add that some international students are probably being priced out, since there seems to be no end to the price increase in US colleges.

US has a bad rep out there nowadays.
I will show you again, where your own article supports what I am saying. Then you can show me in your own article where it says that seats are going unfilled. Because I know for a fact that you are wrong.

Below is where your article explains the cash shortage. It says nothing at all about empty seats. Dont you think they would have mentioned that if it were the case?

Since it is MSN, I am sure they would LOVE to say the seats are going empty. But since they aren’t, they only imply it, without actually saying it. To fool people who want to be fooled, like you.

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International students are significant to school budgets, as many colleges and universities collect higher tuition from them. At Peninsula College in Washington State, international students are charged about $10,000 a year in tuition, while in-state students pay about $5,000.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Checked my alma mater (a world-ranked research university). Enrollment is up.
Everyone’s enrollment is up.

As I explained, more people are going to college now than ever before. Back in the late 80s, we didn't have nearly the competition our kids have today.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:52 AM
 
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That's how its panning out. Less money = lower budgets. You can pretend it is not happening, and repeat it 50 times (like you always do), but it wont make it true.
I have the master plan for Shawnee State University a 5 minute walk from my house half of or more has not been achieved ... lowest cost in the state one of the best gaming courses in the country!
This has been there best enrollment in a long time goal of 5,000 big things could happen but I have been waiting for a long long time....
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I will show you again, where your own article supports what I am saying. Then you can show me in your own article where it says that seats are going unfilled. Because I know for a fact that you are wrong.
Your quote:

"International students are significant to school budgets, as many colleges and universities collect higher tuition from them. At Peninsula College in Washington State, international students are charged about $10,000 a year in tuition, while in-state students pay about $5,000."

Out of State students pay more. This is nothing new. If you didn't know this, then I dont know where you have been.

Enrollments are down overall, so even if they are taking unqualified US students to replace the international ones, the rates are still down, and the dollar amounts are down big time.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Your quote:

"International students are significant to school budgets, as many colleges and universities collect higher tuition from them. At Peninsula College in Washington State, international students are charged about $10,000 a year in tuition, while in-state students pay about $5,000."

Out of State students pay more. This is nothing new. If you didn't know this, then I dont know where you have been.

Enrollments are down overall, so even if they are taking unqualified US students to replace the international ones, the rates are still down, and the dollar amounts are down big time.
You are just repeating what you said before. For a response, see my previous post.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You are just repeating what you said before. For a response, see my previous post.
Already seen. It was a repetition of something you had already said.

Have a nice day
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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You spin things more than a wind up toy train going around and around I see all kinds of diverse kids at SSU they cater to foreign students ...
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Already seen. It was a repetition of something you had already said.

Have a nice day
You too.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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Enrollments are down overall, so even if they are taking unqualified US students to replace the international ones, the rates are still down, and the dollar amounts are down big time.
University of Iowa has enrollment down, but it's been falling since 2014-2015.

2010 – 2,982
2011 – 3,463
2012 – 3,876
2013 – 4,049
2014 – 4,360
2015 – 4,540
2016 - 4,300
2017 - 4,011
2018 - 3,665
2019 - 3,163

https://international.uiowa.edu/about/stats/isss

Really calls into question the partisanship in the quote from your first post,
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"There's many variables, but largely it's been the policies and rhetoric from the current administration that's really driven the numbers to move in that direction," said Rachel Banks, director of public policy at NAFSA.
University of Illinois is down for 2018 but was growing in 2016 and 2017 so that one is a little messy.
https://isss.illinois.edu/download_f...fa18_stats.pdf
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