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The case of jamal khashoggi is a horse of a different color. I don't think it is even reasonable to describe it as 'corruption.' Hence it does not show that Trump is not concerned with corruption.
The murder of jamal khashoggi left Trump in a no-win spot. The admin had been working with the Saudis and Israelis to try to form a bulwark against Iranian efforts at Mid-East hegemony. He could either put that at risk, or look the other way on khashoggi.
It's called geo politics. Same reason FDR and Ike formed an alliance with Stalin in WWII.
I cannot figure out whether your defense of Trump is because you believe he has near unlimited discretion in what he does, or if you think it simply is the case that Schiff has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed the offense of which he is accused. There is no smoking gun so I can see the latter but I have a hard time with the former. I believe the Presidency is limited in power; he is not a king. My problem with Trump is that he acts like he is king.
No, The Ukraine is a sovereign country, and the US has limited power to investigate there. That was the whole point of Hunter Biden setting up shop in Ukraine and China instead of in the US.
Treaty with Ukraine on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters. We have that covered.
Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma starting in early 2014, nearly 6 years ago. Apparently the treaty was not working well to go 6 years with zero investigation, other than by some US journalists.
I cannot figure out whether your defense of Trump is because you believe he has near unlimited discretion in what he does, or if you think it simply is the case that Schiff has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed the offense of which he is accused. There is no smoking gun so I can see the latter but I have a hard time with the former. I believe the Presidency is limited in power; he is not a king. My problem with Trump is that he acts like he is king.
Mainly I think there is not even clear evidence yet of the allegations against Trump. I yet to see the testimony of David Holmes today, which I've always thought could change the evidence picture.
First we have to get evidence, then we can talk about whether it was impeachable. My opinion is probably not, any more than Madison's action was. Impeachment was clearly intended for the gravest of scenarios. I think neither Madison's or Trump's (alleged) actions fit the bill.
Clearly the President does not have unlimited power under the Constitution. One of the problems we have is that the legislative branch has abdicated much of its power, handing it to the executive, judicial, and the unelected bureaucracy.
And that trend is being exacerbated by the obsession with impeachment and Trump. What have they gotten done since they took control of the house in Jan. 2019?
Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma starting in early 2014, nearly 6 years ago. Apparently the treaty was not working well to go 6 years with zero investigation, other than by some US journalists.
IF Hunter Biden broke a Ukrainian law it is up to them to investigate. As far as I know he didn't break any US laws by taking a job in another country.
Also for the treat to be used the US has to open an investigation, so if that wasn't done then the treaty doesn't apply.
People still do not seem to understand the difference between quid pro quo for personal gain, as Trump wanted, and quid pro quo for the good of the entire country.
Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?
Trying to claim all of the witnesses are out to get Trump is laughable. The witnesses presented plenty of corroborating evidence. Trump was not acting as a president. He was offering US resources, paid for the by the taxpayers, in exchange for making a leader of a country sling mud at Biden, because Trump apparently is terrified he cannot get elected on his own record. That is not just disgusting behavior--it is illegal. He'll do it again if he gets away with it this time. He's dragging the country down to his level. He did it and he will continue to break the law, because he has zero respect for it.
Madison was Secretary of State under President Thomas Jefferson in 1805. There had been trouble with US merchant vessels being attacked by Barbary Coast (North Africa) pirates. The great powers of Europe had arrangements to protect their shipping, but the fledgling US didn't.
The Tunisians sent envoy Sidi Soliman Mellimelli to Washington DC to negotiate. Madison was chief negotiator for the US. The Tunisian envoy requested female companionship ('concubines') for his 11 man delegation.
The high-minded Jefferson was not amused by the 'foreign intercourse' reference. Sixteen years earlier, Madison had served as principle author of the Constitution, including the impeachment provisions. At the time there was no suggestion of impeachment over the incident. Should he have been impeached?
What do you think?
Did he do it for corrupt purposes for his own personal benefit? Doesn't sound like it.
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