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Old 11-20-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Trump said he wanted nothing from Ukraine. Don't know why trump wouldn't say that under oath. Curious.
Sondland testified today that Trump told him that, too.

 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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OK, Sondland asked Trump directly. What did Trump say? From Sondland's testimony today:

(Sondland asked Trump) "What do you want from Ukraine?"

(Trump) "I want nothing."

That should clear it up for you.
Yep. Seems pretty clear to me that Trump is a liar.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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The Ukraine bought the anti-tank missiles (the subject of the phone call). What did Trump get?

Joe Biden gave the Ukraine $1 billion in taxpayer money to fire its prosecutor, so they did. THAT'S bribery.
You are now off script. The Republicans (Castor) want to throw Rudy Giuliani under the bus. And you're repeating a Rudy storyline.

It is Rudy Giuliani who asserts it (falsely): OBAMA gave Ukraine the aid in April after the Ukrainian Parliament certified the Shokin firing.

Note that Nunes - in contrast to the other day where he misstated that pesky timeline - did not bring up Joe Biden in his opening. He talks about 2016 election conspiracies. He brings up Hunter Biden. But not a word about Joe.

There was also a slight dodge back to Trump's concern being generalized Ukrainian corruption.

That Sondland completely blows out of the water. At which point Castor only stares helplessly at him.

Trump was influenced by Giuliani who was influenced by Lutsenko: Sondman said to his knowledge Giuliani remained in contact with Lutsenko (who started this) as late as July 10.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Sondland testified today that he heard directly from Trump that "he wanted nothing."
And we heard directly from trump's chief of staff that trump wanted an investigation.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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You must be talking about someone besides Trump. He wanted plenty as testified to by those involved.
They've ALL testified under oath there was no bribery, no PQP. Sondland just testified today that Trump told him he wanted nothing.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Sondland testified today that Trump told him that, too.
I wonder if the Trumplings are even capable of reading?
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How many more times do we have to point out that Trump didn't say that until after the whistleblower report came out?
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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It's beyond obvious. Trumpers pretending to have sub-zero IQs in order to have plausible deniability where there is none.
First mistake is to underestimate. Last mistake is to act accordingly to the first mistake.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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They've ALL testified under oath there was no bribery, no PQP. Sondland just testified today that Trump told him he wanted nothing.
Can Trumplings read?
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How many more times do we have to point out that Trump didn't say that until after the whistleblower report came out?
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Lies from a known liar just proves the liar lies.
You're saying Sondland is lying? This was his testimony today:

Sondland: "What do you want from Ukraine?"

Trump: "I want nothing."
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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They've ALL testified under oath there was no bribery, no PQP. Sondland just testified today that Trump told him he wanted nothing.
And at the end of the day when absolutely nothing becomes of this most recent Demolib freak show, all these yahoos on this thread who hate President Trump because he beat Hillary three years ago will simply chalk the loss up to conspiracy theories.
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