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View Poll Results: Which is more important for a presidential appointee: Fealty to the President or Loyalty to the Coun
Fealty to the President 2 10.00%
Loyalty to Country 18 90.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:46 AM
 
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I ask this because Trump and his supporters are always castigating those that testify truthfully against the President or don’t support Trump with unfailing fealty.

So which is more important?

For purposes of this poll “Fealty to the President” means a willingness to lie for the President.

“Loyalty to Country” means willing to buck the President and tell the truth.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:54 AM
 
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I ask this because Trump and his supporters are always castigating those that testify against the president or don’t support Trump with unfailing fealty.

So which is more important?

For purposes of this poll “Fealty to the President” means a willingness to lie for the President.

“Loyalty to Country” means willing to buck the President and tell the truth.
What we have seen is so many democrats hate the President more than they love the country so lets not pretend this issue hasn't been addressed before !!!

I am curious though !!! Will the democrats ever get tired of embracing failure !!! Will they ever get tired of seeking support from those who hate the USA !!!

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:55 AM
 
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What we have seen is so many democrats hate the President more than they love the country so lets not pretend this issue hasn't been addressed before !!!
Then vote in the poll.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:58 AM
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How long did you spend looking for a word that no one has ever heard before? I think your observation of "loyalty" has never been expressed or expected the way we are seeing it now. Staffers regardless of their appointed level shouldn't turn a blind eye when they believe that something that occurred is inappropriate/illegal.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:01 AM
 
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What we have seen is so many democrats hate the President more than they love the country so lets not pretend this issue hasn't been addressed before !!!
The Democrats want to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM the country like Obama said. You don't want to transform something that you love and respect. That's why they want Open Borders, but lie and call it "Amnesty".
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:02 AM
 
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How long did you spend looking for a word that no one has ever heard before? I think your observation of "loyalty" has never been expressed or expected the way we are seeing it now. Staffers regardless of their appointed level shouldn't turn a blind eye when they believe that something that occurred is inappropriate/illegal.
This issue is very relevant. Trump is always rebuking his own appointees for not being sufficiency loyal whenever they proffer testimony harmful to Trump. Is Trump right? That is the gist of the poll.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:03 AM
 
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Insert Obama and ask the same question.

Was loyalty to Obama more Important than loyalty to the Country ?

For many it was.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:03 AM
 
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The Democrats want to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM the country like Obama said. You don't want to transform something that you love and respect. That's why they want Open Borders, but lie and call it "Amnesty".
Which has ZERO to do with the OP.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:04 AM
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The Democrats want to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM the country like Obama said. You don't want to transform something that you love and respect. That's why they want Open Borders, but lie and call it "Amnesty".
The bigger problem is both parties are allowing there extreme fringes be their mouth piece instead of representing the core of their party. Of course just the opinions against the far right are just as egregious as what you perceive Democrats want to do.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:04 AM
 
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Insert Obama and ask the same question.

Was loyalty to Obama more Important than loyalty to the Country ?
My poll never mentioned Trump. It is generic.
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