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Old 11-24-2019, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by subaru5555 View Post
It’s rather telling how you call “actual facts” a “lying interpretation” because it doesn’t suit the current line of BS that you’re selling (without facts, mind you).

What facts? Please state them.

 
Old 11-24-2019, 04:29 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The fundamental problem that the Democrats have is explaining to the American people how withholding military aid from a foreign country can be considered an impeachable offense for a U.S. President.

Many people wonder why the United States gives military aid to other countries at all.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 04:30 AM
 
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Yeah? The Democrats are already blaming the Republicans in the Senate for letting Trump off. They KNOW they have nothing on him, nor anything that came out from their sham "inquiry" that is impeachable.

So what exactly are the impeachable charges? Not the MEDIA'S lying interpretation, but actual facts? What? NOTHING.
It's worth noting re: the impeachable charges for Richard Nixon; the Judiciary Commitee approved 3 articles of impeachment, each one premised on abuse of the powers of the presidency.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 04:41 AM
 
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The fundamental problem that the Democrats have is explaining to the American people how withholding military aid from a foreign country can be considered an impeachable offense for a U.S. President.

Many people wonder why the United States gives military aid to other countries at all.
When it`s done in exchange for a personal favor it`s impeachable. Should all presidents be allowed to do that or just this one?
 
Old 11-24-2019, 04:45 AM
 
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What facts? Please state them.
'History rhymes'

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On July 18, ten days after arguing the case of the United States v. Nixon before the U.S. Supreme Court,[61] St. Clair presented his final argument against impeaching the president to the Judiciary Committee. He urged the committee to find that it lacked sufficient evidence to justify a recommendation of impeachment. In fact, he said in closing, there was a "complete absence of any conclusive evidence demonstrating presidential wrongdoing sufficient to justify the grave action of impeachment."[121] For his part, John Doar, who had heretofore maintained a neutral stance on impeachment, focused the evidence for the Judiciary Committee toward specific articles of impeachment. "Reasonable men acting reasonably," he said, "would find the president guilty" of misusing the power of his office.[122]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impe..._Richard_Nixon
 
Old 11-24-2019, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Hey bud, we’re still waiting on you here. No one had agreed to anything, except perhaps that you’d rather deflect than list the facts that make it a “lying interpretation”.

So, still no impeachable offenses. Thought so. But, keep deflecting.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Zero chance of that! What's your next dream?

The national popular vote would be dangerous. Especially if ignorant subversives made up this urban, coastal majority.
The Democrats are banking on a flood of illegals who tend to vote themselves largesse. Permanent power is their goal.

This would cause an insurrection and it would be ugly.
Libs either are ignorant of how our Republic and Constitution work or purposely ignore it. The House of Representative represents the People. The President does NOT. The President is elected by the STATES and works on their behalf. He doesn't represent the People.


Democrats are just ignorant.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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It used to be amusing when Democrats pontificated about rule of law while flouting immigration laws and hindering immigration agents attempting to enforce those laws. Now it's just annoyingly stupid.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Just remember, Mulvaney, Trump, Sondland all said there was Quid Pro Quo. All acknowledge that Rudy is Trump's guy. Trump is acting like any crime boss. Giving directions to an underling(see Rudy) and expecting the illegal action to be done (see Michael).
This is the case for Solicitation of a bribe to help a personal campaign.
Then you can add, obstruction of Congress, abuse of office.

It can lead to charges on those who witnessed the July 25th call and did not report to WH lawyer's.

So Pompeo, Pence, Mulvaney all could be charged.

The GOP has a problem. Just how does the party who claims to be against crime ignore crimes done by the head of the party.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Just remember, Mulvaney, Trump, Sondland all said there was Quid Pro Quo. All acknowledge that Rudy is Trump's guy. Trump is acting like any crime boss. Giving directions to an underling(see Rudy) and expecting the illegal action to be done (see Michael).
This is the case for Solicitation of a bribe to help a personal campaign.
Then you can add, obstruction of Congress, abuse of office.

It can lead to charges on those who witnessed the July 25th call and did not report to WH lawyer's.

So Pompeo, Pence, Mulvaney all could be charged.

The GOP has a problem. Just how does the party who claims to be against crime ignore crimes done by the head of the party.
They gave their opinion, but it has not been proven factually.

In order to prove solicitation of a bribe, given that the acts themselves were not inherently illegal, you'd have to prove the intent was specifically to help his campaign....unless you have a mind reader, or there is some factual evidence that no one has seen yet, you can't do that.

I truly hate to break it to you kiddo, but you've got nothing. Doubling down time and time again is going to make this really hard for you to walk back and you'll need to when this all falls apart. I'm almost embarrassed for you.
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