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God this clown has got to go. Still with the propaganda "gateway theory"
Lets keep locking up people for a plant and allow cartels and criminals control of Cannabis
Cannabis is not a gateway drug. That has been researched and debunked. That is not the problem with legalization. The problem is greedy governments who see cannabis legalization as a source of revenue.
Canada legalized cannabis to both take the industry out of the hands of criminals, and to ensure that the product is safe.
Canada failed on both fronts. The drug trade was put in the hands of white collar entrepreneurs who are looking to make a fast buck. Legal cannabis is twice as expensive as black market pot, so long term users are still buying street pot that is cheap and safe. Furthermore, the cannabis industry seems to think that the stronger pot is, the better. Legal pot, compared to street pot in the 70s and 80s, is many times more potent. Some Suit Person decided that super zonked is better than mildly stoned.
Unless legal cannabis is priced below street pot, the criminal side of cannabis will continue to thrive.
And pretty much all of them are states with heavy evangelical influence in their state governments. Funny thing is, even in places like Oklahoma, it's supported when put to a vote of the people.
Cannabis is not a gateway drug. That has been researched and debunked. That is not the problem with legalization. The problem is greedy governments who see cannabis legalization as a source of revenue.
Canada legalized cannabis to both take the industry out of the hands of criminals, and to ensure that the product is safe.
Canada failed on both fronts. The drug trade was put in the hands of white collar entrepreneurs who are looking to make a fast buck. Legal cannabis is twice as expensive as black market pot, so long term users are still buying street pot that is cheap and safe. Furthermore, the cannabis industry seems to think that the stronger pot is, the better. Legal pot, compared to street pot in the 70s and 80s, is many times more potent. Some Suit Person decided that super zonked is better than mildly stoned.
Unless legal cannabis is priced below street pot, the criminal side of cannabis will continue to thrive.
Probably some truth to that- legalizing will not eliminate the black market.
On the other hand, alcohol is highly taxes and most folk don’t go for home made moonshine.
As far as it being a gateway drug- well, it and alcohol are.gateway substances. Not likely to find a hard core addict who did not begin the journey with one or both substances. Of course, most who use marijuana do not escalate to hard drugs, just as most who consume alcohol do not become raging alcoholics.
Probably some truth to that- legalizing will not eliminate the black market.
On the other hand, alcohol is highly taxes and most folk don’t go for home made moonshine.
As far as it being a gateway drug- well, it and alcohol are.gateway substances. Not likely to find a hard core addict who did not begin the journey with one or both substances. Of course, most who use marijuana do not escalate to hard drugs, just as most who consume alcohol do not become raging alcoholics.
Moonshine can be deadly, but small breweries are thriving. The Canadian government shut out everyone who was already producing pot. It's all about large corporations and rich investors.
The real problem is the cost. The argument to legalize is to take the cannabis industry out of the hands of criminals, but that is impossible if legal pot is 2-3 times more expensive than street pot.
I agree that some meth heads may start their downward spiral with alcohol or cannabis, but using alcohol or cannabis does not lead to using meth.
What does this have to do with supporting Trump if he shot someone in broad daylight?
What you say here is the handiwork of the military industrial complex. Only two presidents worked to stop their influence, JFK and Carter. JFK was murdered and Carter was sabotaged and hamstrung. But he worked out the only middle east peace deal.
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ya the endless wars of the RINOs and Democrats
Thousands of dead troops
8 trillion dollars
hundred thousand troop injuries
Hundreds of thousands of dead civilians
Only red state to legalize marijuana for recreational use is Alaska.
It will be legal in my blue state 1/1. Despite this, most municipalities have voted to take a pass on licensing dispensaries, despite the potential for new revenue.
Incorrect, only three states do not allow it for medical.
And while you mention Alaska, do not fail to mention the numerous Democrat controlled states where it is not legal for recreational use.
Gateway to what? Coffee is more likely a gateway drug to other stimulant use such as cocaine and speed. Go ahead, call for criminalizing that, Mr. Biden!
If it is legal, it should be made legal to grow your own for personal consumption, like you can brew your own beer or make your own wine. Right now, pot is more expensive than good whiskey. So the economics of pot, like the economics of pharmaceuticals are keeping the price high. Plus as long as it is legal for employers to test for and terminate employees who use pot, that is another powerful economic barrier to it's use. I smoked my last joint in 1982 when my company started rigorous random drug testing. The penalty for being caught twice was termination. But you could get drunk every night without consequence. You could be loaded to the eyeballs with powerful prescription tranquilizers during the day and there was no consequence. So it seems the prohibition of pot is an economic, rather than a moral or health issue.
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Moonshine can be deadly, but small breweries are thriving. The Canadian government shut out everyone who was already producing pot. It's all about large corporations and rich investors.
The real problem is the cost. The argument to legalize is to take the cannabis industry out of the hands of criminals, but that is impossible if legal pot is 2-3 times more expensive than street pot.
I agree that some meth heads may start their downward spiral with alcohol or cannabis, but using alcohol or cannabis does not lead to using meth.
Cannabis is not a gateway drug. That has been researched and debunked. That is not the problem with legalization. The problem is greedy governments who see cannabis legalization as a source of revenue.
Canada legalized cannabis to both take the industry out of the hands of criminals, and to ensure that the product is safe.
Canada failed on both fronts. The drug trade was put in the hands of white collar entrepreneurs who are looking to make a fast buck. Legal cannabis is twice as expensive as black market pot, so long term users are still buying street pot that is cheap and safe. Furthermore, the cannabis industry seems to think that the stronger pot is, the better. Legal pot, compared to street pot in the 70s and 80s, is many times more potent. Some Suit Person decided that super zonked is better than mildly stoned.
Unless legal cannabis is priced below street pot, the criminal side of cannabis will continue to thrive.
Yes the same thing happened with alcohol legalization no?
In CO and CA im fairly certain Cannabis prices have bottomed out. No more $400-$500 for an ounce of dank
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