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View Poll Results: Will the House Democrats call a vote to officially impeach President Trump based on what we have see
Yes 86 68.25%
No 40 31.75%
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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The hearings are not over, just the public ones. The Justice committee is going to conduct more hearings over the next couple of weeks but they won't be broadcast.

So when they vote they will be voting based on a lot more than what we have seen.
The strongest arguments for impeachment have already been put forth. This was the big enchilada.

It is unlikely that further hearings will change anything much.

 
Old 11-24-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Connecting dots is frequently done in kangaroo courts.

Evidence my boy...evidence.

That is called "beyond a reasonable doubt."
 
Old 11-24-2019, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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House GOP members on the intelligence committee repeating Russian propaganda and needed to be warned by Fiona Hill that this plays into the hands of Russians, why are they on the Intelligence committee if they cant grasp such a basic understanding.


I understand the senate intelligence committee was given a detailed briefing by intelligence agencies, maybe the house GOP needs a refresher on what occurred in 2016.


We have a president that claims the FBI gave a Ukrainian oligarch the DNC server, this is the definition of insanity. The Russians must be celebrating.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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House GOP members on the intelligence committee repeating Russian propaganda and needed to be warned by Fiona Hill that this plays into the hands of Russians, why are they on the Intelligence committee if they cant grasp such a basic understanding.


I understand the senate intelligence committee was given a detailed briefing by intelligence agencies, maybe the house GOP needs a refresher on what occurred in 2016.


We have a president that claims the FBI gave a Ukrainian oligarch the DNC server, this is the definition of insanity. The Russians must be celebrating.
Imagine the dancing they were doing while ya'll were claiming the President was a Russian agent.

Ms. Hill was not just talking to Republicans lol. She admonished all of them.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Many Red state Democrats are getting worried and cold feet in supporting the Impeachment Sham.

It could cost Pelosi seats in the House.


https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/stat...15246732169216
 
Old 11-24-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Many Red state Democrats are getting worried and cold feet in supporting the Impeachment Sham.

It could cost Pelosi seats in the House.
It looks like a number of them are starting to go wobbly. This was expected from the start. But it will come as a surprise to the Democrat left mass media fed TDS mob, as their "experts" have been telling them all along that this is a sure thing, the evidence is overwhelming, the "Walls are closing in" and that the damage from the "bombshells" is insurmountable for Trump.

But reality appears to be rearing its ugly head and a number of these Democrats will have their careers on the line for this vote. Why do this if Trump is going to come out of it in the worst case, exonerated by the Senate and stronger than he has been any time over the last three years? It makes no sense. Certainly not from these Congresspeople who are being asked to sacrifice their political careers for this.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Correct. You refuse to see the truth even though it is smacking you in the face. This has nothing to do with party. None of those witnesses were partisan. They worked both Republican and Democrat administrations. Gordon Sondland was appointed by Trump even! Trump has taken more vacations than any president in history using our tax dollars, declared a national emergency for his wall even though Congress refused to fund it leaving hardworking Americans without a paycheck for 6 weeks, gets on Twitter every day insulting people who never said a single unkind word about him, lies continuously about anything and everything, cheated on his wife with porn stars and paid them off (known as prostitution,) and takes half the workweek off flying all over the country holding rallies in honor of himself.

And all these idiots he's appointed to high level positions are either woefully unqualified, in prison, or on their way to prison. How do you support him? At least support another other Republican candidate. Or Bernie Sanders, who is an independent candidate. It isn't an either/or. If you're going to say, "But our economy is so great!" Trump did not cause our great economy! With rare exception, presidents do not affect the economy. Employers hire, not the president. And let's not forget the Fed had to lower rates twice so the economy is softening. And this trade war? The trade war has sent our farmers into bankruptcy and INCREASED the prices of products for Americans. So make no mistake; this is what you're supporting. But he's a Republican! Congratulations! If Trump represents the pinnacle of the Republican party and you support THAT, I am proud that I don't and I reject such a horrible person. I am shocked so many Americans think such a man is worthy of respect.
The majority of the witnesses were in indeed partisan. They were partisan to their way , their opinions , and their perspective of what the foreign policy of the United States should be. Most of it involved Human Resources issues intermixed with lectures and opinion based summaries. Most of it did not have any relevance at all to the Impeachment question. Nothing presented was anything near a standard to remove a POTUS.
There wasn’t any real evidence. Not one witness could say that the POTUS directed them to do anything illegal.

Regarding his personality , that was well known before the election. He hasn’t changed at all. The DEm slanted MSM did all they could to destroy him and it didn’t work. He got elected.

The economy is doing fine. There are ebbs and flows all the time , but generally speaking, their are many , many nations on earth that would like to have the “ problems” that Democrats keep harping on. America is the only country in the world with the longest line to get in , and the shortest line to get out. The false alarms about Climate Change and our demise, and the need to turn everything upside down is just propaganda. Since 2000, the United States has had the largest absolute decline in carbon emissions among all countries.

Truth is, human nature never changes.. Trump is the Barbarian of our times, minus the carnage of the past. Sometimes it takes a Barbarian to push through regardless of what is thrown against them along the way.

It isn’t too difficult to respect individuals for their contributions and not respect them for their behavior. Liberals seem to be able to sort that concept out in regards to their Hollywood and Entertainment fellows , regardless of the lifestyles they lead. We actually are seeing where some news networks may have been supporting the abusers.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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The majority of the witnesses were in indeed partisan. They were partisan to their way , their opinions , and their perspective of what the foreign policy of the United States should be. Most of it involved Human Resources issues intermixed with lectures and opinion based summaries. Most of it did not have any relevance at all to the Impeachment question. Nothing presented was anything near a standard to remove a POTUS.
There wasn’t any real evidence. Not one witness could say that the POTUS directed them to do anything illegal.

Regarding his personality , that was well known before the election. He hasn’t changed at all. The DEm slanted MSM did all they could to destroy him and it didn’t work. He got elected.

The economy is doing fine. There are ebbs and flows all the time , but generally speaking, their are many , many nations on earth that would like to have the “ problems” that Democrats keep harping on. America is the only country in the world with the longest line to get in , and the shortest line to get out. The false alarms about Climate Change and our demise, and the need to turn everything upside down is just propaganda. Since 2000, the United States has had the largest absolute decline in carbon emissions among all countries.

Truth is, human nature never changes.. Trump is the Barbarian of our times, minus the carnage of the past. Sometimes it takes a Barbarian to push through regardless of what is thrown against them along the way.

It isn’t too difficult to respect individuals for their contributions and not respect them for their behavior. Liberals seem to be able to sort that concept out in regards to their Hollywood and Entertainment fellows , regardless of the lifestyles they lead. We actually are seeing where some news networks may have been supporting the abusers.
Interesting post. Where do you place 'truth' in this analysis, theoretically? Is to disregard truth part of accepted Barbarian behavior? Where is the line drawn before disregarding it becomes a form of carnage?

For example, that Trump altered the hurricane map made a profound impression. That was minor by comparison to what some believe to now be carnage. But it was profoundly emblematic of an underlying propensity.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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The strongest arguments for impeachment have already been put forth. This was the big enchilada.

It is unlikely that further hearings will change anything much.
We haven't heard from Bolton yet. He will be the strongest of all since he can say exactly what Trump ordered and why, and it won't be hearsay. Bolton will either exculpate or inculpate Trump. If it is the former, I doubt the House will even vote to impeach. If it is the latter, the Pubs can no longer cook up their lame excuses and will have to convict Trump in the Senate. It is that simple.
 
Old 11-24-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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Oh boy !!! Another cartoon production brought to us by Shifty Schiff, I presume !!!

You presume wrong, it was brought on by Trump. Put the blame where it belongs. He made that call, not Schiff.
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