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Old 12-03-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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I’m not talking only about illegals. I’m talking about legal immigrants too. And I ‘m talking about white ones, brown ones, yellow ones.....from every single country.
Read any major newspaper: it is astounding how much crime is perpetrated by newcomers. ALL types of crime. Will any one ever talk about this?? Will the needed studies ever be done, to get hard numbers and costs?? Of course not.

My God, what a chump country we have become. Someone just tattoo “CHUMP” on our foreheads, please.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I’m not talking only about illegals. I’m talking about legal immigrants too. And I ‘m talking about white ones, brown ones, yellow ones.....from every single country.
Read any major newspaper: it is astounding how much crime is perpetrated by newcomers. ALL types of crime. Will any one ever talk about this?? Will the needed studies ever be done, to get hard numbers and costs?? Of course not.

My God, what a chump country we have become. Someone just tattoo “CHUMP” on our foreheads, please.
That's complete utter rubbish. Immigrants commit far fewer crimes than citizens, period.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/u...nts-crime.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...506-story.html

https://thehill.com/latino/324607-re...-born-citizens
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:18 PM
 
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I’m not talking only about illegals. I’m talking about legal immigrants too. And I ‘m talking about white ones, brown ones, yellow ones.....from every single country.
Read any major newspaper: it is astounding how much crime is perpetrated by newcomers. ALL types of crime. Will any one ever talk about this?? Will the needed studies ever be done, to get hard numbers and costs?? Of course not.

My God, what a chump country we have become. Someone just tattoo “CHUMP” on our foreheads, please.
How about providing factual unbiased links to support your little claim.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I’m not talking only about illegals. I’m talking about legal immigrants too. And I ‘m talking about white ones, brown ones, yellow ones.....from every single country.
Read any major newspaper: it is astounding how much crime is perpetrated by newcomers. ALL types of crime. Will any one ever talk about this?? Will the needed studies ever be done, to get hard numbers and costs?? Of course not.

My God, what a chump country we have become. Someone just tattoo “CHUMP” on our foreheads, please.
You go first.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:28 PM
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43% of federal offenders 2018 were "immigrants"

https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-...eral-offenders
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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I’m not talking only about illegals. I’m talking about legal immigrants too. And I ‘m talking about white ones, brown ones, yellow ones.....from every single country.
Read any major newspaper: it is astounding how much crime is perpetrated by newcomers. ALL types of crime. Will any one ever talk about this?? Will the needed studies ever be done, to get hard numbers and costs?? Of course not.

My God, what a chump country we have become. Someone just tattoo “CHUMP” on our foreheads, please.
Excuse me, but this is the problem of people posting opinion as if it were fact.

In fact, immigrants commit fewer crimes. The problem is that the media jumps on the story and it distorts your perception. It reminds me of the interesting statistic in "Bowling for Columbine," that as crime went down, crime stories in the news went up.

You might find these helpful:

The Myth of the Criminal Immigrant
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...tion-myth.html

Two charts demolish the notion that immigrants commit more crime
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it-more-crime/
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:34 PM
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43% of federal offenders 2018 were "immigrants"

https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-...eral-offenders
Who ya gonna believe, the ny times, wapo or the ussc?
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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43% of federal offenders 2018 were "immigrants"

https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-...eral-offenders
i think because of what counts as a felony. If you illegally cross the border or illegally carry something into the U.S a state isn't always going to prosecute you. It's akin to calling El Chapo an immigrant because he has the ability to be charged in the U.S even though from all intents and purposes he's just an international criminal rather than an immigrant... non-citizens doesn't equal immigrants. I'm pretty sure he counts under the numbers your siting, and that's likely where a lot of the numbers come from.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I find it hard to believe since my husband is an immigrant who went through the legal system ten years ago. He was required to have a thorough background check (called a "police check" in the UK.) He didn't have so much as a speeding ticket. And he has not committed any crimes here either.

My next door neighbor is an immigrant from Scotland and down the road is an Irish immigrant. All legal immigrants and respectable people. The process of getting into this country is stringent and if you've never been near it, you probably don't know. They want to know everything about you, your family, your parents, your life.

The same can't be said for illegals. We don't know anything about them or even who they really are in many cases. Don't lump legal immigrants/green card holders in with illegals!
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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The leftist media lie, lie, lie. All day, all the time.

They will try to hide whether or not a criminal is from another country. (But if you dig deep enough, you can usually find out).

Most immigrants come here just looking to take advantage of Americans. Legally or illegally....it makes no difference. That’s the mindset these days. TONS of serious organized criminals coming in. Blue collar, white collar, and no collar. Looking to commit crimes and abuse Americans.
Leftists have no problem with this. Bizarre. (And one reason why I left the left).
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