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View Poll Results: Who is certain Trump will be removed from office
definately- the Senate will vote for impeachment 3 4.84%
not sure- the Senate will most likely not vote for impeachment 17 27.42%
No way- the Senate will never vote for impeachment 40 64.52%
Don't care 2 3.23%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-21-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Having said that, I was wondering if the Senate might *convict* him but as for the punishment, give him a slap on the wrist? Like, a reprimand, or something? I could see something like that happening, maybe. You'd have to have separate votes for the conviction and the sentence.

The Constitution doesn't appear to offer any leeway. It says if the Senate votes to convict then the president "shall be removed" from office.

I suppose the Senate could vote to acquit and then pass a censure resolution, saying something to the effect of "yeah, we think you're guilty but we didn't think it was a high crime, so knock it off and don't do it again."

 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Impeach? Yes. Removed? Likely not. We will have to see what happens.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The Constitution doesn't appear to offer any leeway. It says if the Senate votes to convict then the president "shall be removed" from office.
I see, thanks.

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I suppose the Senate could vote to acquit and then pass a censure resolution, saying something to the effect of "yeah, we think you're guilty but we didn't think it was a high crime, so knock it off and don't do it again."
Yeah, something like that sounds plausible too.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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As others have said - impeached yes, removed no.

And most people will vote based on their pocketbooks, so if the economy and stock market hold up, which they probably will, then Trump will be reelected in 2020.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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The very existence of this poll shows how ignorant the Trumpers are of the impeachment process and the way government functions under the constitution.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The Democrats already decided they were going to impeach Trump a long time ago. Democrats don't care whether there is evidence or no evidence, hearsay, beliefs, whatever. They just want to fulfill their impeachment fantasy. So, that will happen in the House.
Let's assume you are telepathic and this is true, this is how the Democrats really think. Now imagine if Trump is actually guilty of a crime. How would the outward actions of the Democrats differ based on whether they want to impeach Trump based on fantasy versus facts? There is no difference.

Now take away your fantasy telepathic powers and explain how you came to the conclusion Democrats want to impeach Trump regardless of evidence.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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Impeached? Yes, certainly. Convicted and removed? It will depend on where public opinion is by the time it reaches the Senate. If the GOP thinks it will hurt them next November not to convict, they will convict. If they think they can skate by without removing their criminal president, they will go that route.

Everything depends on what the American public thinks at the time they are called upon to vote. The GOP is all, and only, about survival, not good governance or integrity or upholding the rule of law or obeying the Constitution or any of those other "lofty American ideals." Those mean nothing to today's average Republican.

Couldn't vote in your poll, OP, because it didn't include the option, "It depends on where voter opinion is at the time," which to me is the correct response.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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As of today, he wouldn't be removed. The day that Mr. Turtle McConnell feels that his Senate control is in jeopardy, he'll cut Trump loose like a lead weight. Besides, that sudden trip to the Hospital this week is just setting the stage for Dear Leader to claim a medical excuse to quit, just in case.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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The Democrats already decided they were going to impeach Trump a long time ago. Democrats don't care whether there is evidence or no evidence, hearsay, beliefs, whatever. They just want to fulfill their impeachment fantasy. So, that will happen in the House.

The Senate will not vote to remove Trump based on any testimony that is out there so far. Sondland basically cleared Trump, as far as the Republicans are concerned.
Sadly that was the exact same thing with Clinton and Obama.

How many investigations were against Obama, look at this link...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama#Preventing_Obama_f rom_"pushing_his_agenda"

pretty flimsy stuff, "pushing liberal agenda" Senator Corbin of OK couldn't even give a reason, debt ceiling crisis (GOP refused to vote for), my soon to be former Rep Pete king thought a Tan suit was an impeachable offense. Lets not even get into the birther B.S....and as I always say..8 investigations into Benghazi, and when one cleared Obama they had a new one..talk about a witch hunt

Before Monica Lewinski the GOP actually investigated who the Clintons sent a friggin Christmas card too


And 2 days after Obama election Rush Limbaugh said "I hope he fails" and McConell said in the elad up to 2010 elections our ONLY goal is to make Obama a one-term president.
 
Old 11-21-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: NYC
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As of today, he wouldn't be removed. The day that Mr. Turtle McConnell feels that his Senate control is in jeopardy, he'll cut Trump loose like a lead weight. Besides, that sudden trip to the Hospital this week is just setting the stage for Dear Leader to claim a medical excuse to quit, just in case.
They did an MRI on his head and found nothing.
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