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Old 11-23-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Yep-Biden looks increasingly desperate and irrational with his statements. Maybe he should stick with shooting his shotgun off the back porch and groping the neighbor kiddies.
Then we've got Trump shooting anyone who dares oppose him - metaphorically speaking that in, via tweet and rally - while groping the ladies. What's a voter to do these days?
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If a nation that maliciously interferes in our elections and is actively sowing divisions in our nation is not our adversary than what nation is. Nations being adversaries does not mean they are engaged in open warfare.
Why limit that to a foreign nation? What about when American, or American-based businesses and organizations do exactly the same thing as you describe? Is that not worse-working to damage their own nation? There is a term for that...
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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It's about time. Hopefully Crazy Joe will be sent into retirement. Whatever Trump did with regards to Ukraine - Biden's done worse! For those of you who can't read well, here is the summary.


The inquiry by Graham (R-S.C.) is focused on any calls Biden may have had with Petro Poroshenko, then the Ukrainian president, regarding the firing of the country’s top prosecutor, as well as any that referenced an investigation of Burisma, the Ukrainian natural-gas company that employed Biden’s son Hunter Biden.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

...by all means...Trump just keeps digging himself in deeper - have at it!
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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It's about time. Hopefully Crazy Joe will be sent into retirement. Whatever Trump did with regards to Ukraine - Biden's done worse! For those of you who can't read well, here is the summary.


The inquiry by Graham (R-S.C.) is focused on any calls Biden may have had with Petro Poroshenko, then the Ukrainian president, regarding the firing of the country’s top prosecutor, as well as any that referenced an investigation of Burisma, the Ukrainian natural-gas company that employed Biden’s son Hunter Biden.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
Bengasi II.

The GOP is loaded with fools in office. No wonder they are starting to exit the Congress and Trumps administration.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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It seems as if you are implying that Russia is our adversary. As in, we halted transfer of weapons to Ukraine, who as at war with Russia, our adversary. This is what you meant I believe.

But to call them an adversary would suggest that we are or were at the time, at war with Russia.
You don’t think Putin is our adversary? He is a threat to the whole free world.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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Lol..What is worse than a US president halting arms transfers to a nation at war with a US adversary unless that nation complies with that US President’s extortion demand that he dig up dirt on his domestic political opponent.

Yes, Trumpists will get their way and Trump will not be convicted by the Senate. But they are so friggen blind to the precedent this will set. We will no longer have US foreign policy but foreign policy at the whim of whomever the US President is regardless if that whim is for illegal purposes.

There is no swamp there is only a malignant cancer called Trumpism on the executive branch that has metastasized to all the US government.

This whole Biden sham is a made up controversy for the Trumpist base. A sham to deflect from Trump’s crimes.
They keep spinning this tired Biden/Ukraine story hoping that something will stick. A conspiracy is a conspiracy is a conspiracy.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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You are dishonest or gullible.

Biden bragged on video about getting the prosecutor fired that is investigating his son's company.

To try to argue that his son working for the company had nothing to do with it is a jump the shark argument.
Please do educate yourself on what the true story is. It's been stated over and over again. But for the millionth time, here it is again.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...or/3785620002/
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
Yep-he worked to expose the corrupt and possibly criminal acts of Joe Biden and his family. What a meanie.
The proper way to do this is go to the Attorney General and get the Department of Justice to do a proper investigation on your
concerns. Not, go in and strong arm/blackmail a foreign country to make them dig up dirt on your political opponent.


Notice this all started happening at the end of November 2018...after the Republicans lost the House in the November elections.
Nah...couldn't be politically motivated desperation....anything, no matter how unethical to win an election....nah.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Lol..What is worse than a US president halting arms transfers to a nation at war with a US adversary unless that nation complies with that US President’s extortion demand that he dig up dirt on his domestic political opponent.
An administration that does the same to enrich the family of a sitting US vice president.

That is the difference-Trump's efforts were to expose corruption within Ukraine that allegedly involves a US vice president. Biden's efforts with to enrich his family at the expense of US taxpayer dollars.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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It's about time. Hopefully Crazy Joe will be sent into retirement. Whatever Trump did with regards to Ukraine - Biden's done worse! For those of you who can't read well, here is the summary.


The inquiry by Graham (R-S.C.) is focused on any calls Biden may have had with Petro Poroshenko, then the Ukrainian president, regarding the firing of the country’s top prosecutor, as well as any that referenced an investigation of Burisma, the Ukrainian natural-gas company that employed Biden’s son Hunter Biden.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
It's all deflection to distract people from the crimes of the President. But go ahead, take it up as soon as Trump's trial is over. At least Biden won't hide witnesses like Trump has.
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