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View Poll Results: Based on what we know:
Trump should be impeached. 75 40.11%
Trump should not be impeached. 108 57.75%
I am not sure/have no opinion. 4 2.14%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-23-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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so...investigate Biden and see if it was corruption

 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Trump insults people, lies, fabricates conspiracies. Not just once or even occasionally but every day, continously. It is disheartening enough that so many of the public support this behavior. It's all but criminal that so many congressmen do.
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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And he's not 'gushing over Trump'. That's your bias at work.
How many times have we heard Zelensky literally begging Trump to visit Ukraine?
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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The Democrats' non-stop witch hunt these past three years casts doubt on these hearings. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
Three years of indicting and locking up Republicans casts doubt on these hearings?
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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From what I understand, obstruction of justice and abuse of power are impeachable offenses. Trump instructed white house staff not to testify despite being subpoenaed. He will be impeached in the house, but not in the senate.
Only the House can impeach. The Senate would then conduct a trial determining whether the President is removed from office, which has never happened in the history of our country.

Want to get rid of Trump? Don’t give America a bitter impeachment vote for a Christmas present, which would up the divisiveness index to a level that may well result in the President’s re-election. (Because, really: where are the 67 Senate votes to convict Trump?) Instead, try nominating a Democratic candidate who appeals to the voters instead of insulting their intelligence. WIN AN ELECTION.

We all know Nancy hates Don, and so do all the other girls. Could we (to borrow a phrase) MOVE ON?
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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so...investigate Biden and see if it was corruption
We have our own DOJ to do that. Trump is Barrs boss. Why hasn't Trump had Barr open an investigation? Why go to a supposedly corrupt country to get them to do an investigation? Why should we trust the conclusions of a corrupt countries investigation into an American citizen?
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Let's get Bolton, Pompeo, McGahn and the rest of the crew sworn in and questioned.
To be fair, we should be informed of their explanations of the events in question.
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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I don’t think so. I do see this as a brief unforced error by Trump, or as one of the witnesses said, an errand. Of course the democrats have seized on it and immediately went all in on impeachment. I don’t see it as an impeachable offense and I believe republicans have the flexibility to say, that while I don’t agree with his actions in this instance, there is no crimes here and we have an election to let the people decide in 9 months. I believe the Republican senators will stand up for their voters and realize Trump is their best shot in 2020 as 2016 was proof. I think Trump will learn his lesson from this and be more restrained in these situations, some things are just out of his hands.

I think, to put it all into perspective you have to go back to the Russia investigation. Trump was put under that cloud for two years, daily media headlines against him. He didn’t attempt to fire Mueller bc he knew he was innocent but the public was being manipulated against him. Mueller testified to congress on July 24th, which effectively ended the nonsense. The day after, Trump gets on the call with Zelensky, finally having the investigation behind him he wanted to go on the offensive and find out how this all started (his family went through a lot in those two years), Biden seemed to be an afterthought but look into his own statement on Ukraine quid pro quo.

That is my two cents anyway
 
Old 11-23-2019, 08:33 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Three years of indicting and locking up Republicans casts doubt on these hearings?
And 3 years of a revolving cast of characters working with the president doesn't? Anyone who voices an opinion or displeases the whiner in chief is let go so where is the validity to any statements the GOP makes?
 
Old 11-23-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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No evidence, no proof.

Hearsay, gossip, hopes, desires and dreams--that's what we heard the past 2 weeks.

Democrats are trying to desperately piece together a case against Trump, made out of bubbles and string. LOL
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