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NY is full of illegals who get welfare saying the language barrier keeps them from earning money. Yes, they get welfare!
Yeah, and Florida hires all of those illegals, under the table, at slightly above slave wages, stealing all of those wonderful jobs Americans would gladly do for minimum wage. Right?
And, factor in those who would never leave no matter the cost of remaining. I have family in Ca. and NYC. If I were to offer them 5 million dollars to move to Texas they would laugh out loud and tell me to save the money for their kids.
My sil pays 6000 a month for a rent stabilized apartment. But up the street low income people can still buy in one of those buildings that the city financed for the renters to purchase their apartment for 250 bucks. All you need is some cash and limited annual income.
It's a weird dynamic that Team Red is trying to selling us: if all taxation was equal across the board and COL was equal across the board then supply and demand for housing & jobs would also be equal between Santa Monica and Little Rock.
You get what you pay for. It would be the same way without a government. I don't know how this is so hard to understand.
I mean...did people move to the Rust Belt 70-80 years ago for the weather and physical beauty? No, they moved there because they could get a job with a 3rd grade education and little to no skills that paid for their home, wife, kids, health care, and car. You worked hard, sure, but there it was: Americana.
Again, I don't understand how this is so hard to understand.
How many people live in Stockton, Fresno, Bakersfield, Salinas, Moreno Valley, Hawthorne? There is a reason California has the biggest secession movement in the country, the proposed State of Jefferson. Taxes and representation.
Upstate NY and Manhattan quite different in terms of prosperity as well.
Sure, it's not equal across the entire state whether we are talking about NY, CA, or even Illinois.
I drive to Vegas from Santa Monica pretty often since my brother moved to Sin City. I'll stop in Barstow or Baker for a bathroom break or a beverage. Gas is $9 billion per gallon, there is no ocean, it's relatively flat in comparison to coastal L.A., it's 110 degrees (while it's 72 in Santa Monica), and the people around town look like extras from the Walking Dead.
Plop my apartment down in Barstow or Baker and I immediately reduce my rent by at least 70%. And then I have to live there.
Yes NYC and CA are turning into over taxed crapholes for the rich with potholes in the road and most of the money going to the corrupt union bosses and the LIBS running the school systems.........but there's a secret most don't know and they should..............
To all the ones who think they are putting out a message by leaving in a huff.......here's the secret.......
THE LIBERAL ELiTES COuLD CARE LESS!.....they would be happy if half the state of CA got up and left........so there ya have it.......they want you and I to leave, the sooner the better.......
I'm well aware that Sacramento couldn't care less who leaves. When Toyota moved to Texas they didn't even blink. Next year I'm a native middle class business owner who is cashing out and leaving Ca for Az. I have no illusions I'll be missed in the slightest. Just one of many uhauls heading for the border.
NY and CA. are two of the greatest economic engines driving the USA and the World.
If you want to worry about economic collapse, consider:
1. Trillion dollar Federal Deficits and more and more national debt.
2. Failure of Federal Government to address health care.
3. The basic fact that MANY areas have ALREADY collapsed. I invite you to tour many areas of the coal mining country, the rust belt, etc. and witness it first hand.
Yeah, and Florida hires all of those illegals, under the table, at slightly above slave wages, stealing all of those wonderful jobs Americans would gladly do for minimum wage. Right?
No doubt Florida and Texas love their slave wages...some of the lowest min. wages in the USA and immigrant friendly Ag work policies. Between those two states I think we are talking 4 Million quasi-legal and illegal workers...let alone 10 million low wage Americans.......
I mean...did people move to the Rust Belt 70-80 years ago for the weather and physical beauty? No, they moved there because they could get a job with a 3rd grade education and little to no skills that paid for their home, wife, kids, health care, and car. You worked hard, sure, but there it was: Americana.
Again, I don't understand how this is so hard to understand.
Team Red wants you to believe that since most Whites were able to flee some of this places and blacks and brown people couldn't (no money) - that, therefore, the poor people who couldn't leave are responsible for the policies that sent the places downhill.
The very thought to them that Black Folks moved somewhere for jobs doesn't make sense...yet when the same loss of jobs, low wages and failure to invest causes the white community to die earlier, be hopeless and consumer massive amounts of opiates and meth....the very same people say "poor baby, you have a disease that we can cure".
Team Red wants you to believe that since most Whites were able to flee some of this places and blacks and brown people couldn't (no money) - that, therefore, the poor people who couldn't leave are responsible for the policies that sent the places downhill.
The very thought to them that Black Folks moved somewhere for jobs doesn't make sense...yet when the same loss of jobs, low wages and failure to invest causes the white community to die earlier, be hopeless and consumer massive amounts of opiates and meth....the very same people say "poor baby, you have a disease that we can cure".
I don't think this makes sense.
Rural conservative areas in this country have always been hellholes and always will be.
Economically, culturally, aesthetically and infrastructure-wise (health care, transportation).
It's a nightmare.
The sweet spot, generally speaking, for those priced out of the coasts is to find a suburban/semi-rural area that's pretty close to a major city in a lowish taxation/lowish COL state. Your economy, culture, aesthetics, and infrastructure are decent enough while paying 60% to 70% less in rent than I do in Santa Monica.
Outside of a Cleveland or an Indianapolis comes to mind.
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