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Old 11-25-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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I voted for Trump in 16 and plan to vote for him again next year unless given a better option. I think the democrat party has a lack of leadership and their impeachment effort is a result of that. They have caved to the angriest and most radical of their base, basically they are a lost party right now. A moderate with reasonable policies and the ability to reach the general voters will not be coming out of that party next year.

Hence, Howard Shultz. If he decides to run, he won't need to go through the democrat primary as he is a centrist independent. Trump has shown you don't really need support from the party to become president, only support from the voters and enough personal wealth to run your campaign, which Howard has plenty of ($4 billion).

If you've been watching the democrat debates, it's clear the outdated debate format isn't helping any candidates. Howard can make appearances on media networks and popular podcasts like Joe Rogan, NPR, Ben Shapiro etc. He can do town halls, rallies, there is limitless ways to reach the public in 2020.

Schultz background:
* Grew up in a public housing project in Brooklyn (understands the struggle of many Americans)
* Worked and paid his way through college at Northern Michigan University
* First to graduate college in his family (his parents couldn't afford to attend his graduation)
* Door to door salesman after college
* Not a politician (huge plus)
* Self made businessman that built Starbucks into what it is today
* Has slammed the vilification of capitalism and concerned about the rise of socialism on the left

Howard is an impressive example of the American dream with a great inspirational story. He can challenge Trump in ways none of the democrat candidates can. With Joe Biden floundering and Bloomberg now stepping in, Howard is a fresh face and a true centrist that can appeal to a general public that is looking for exactly that. There is certainly an opening there as the left is failing to offer it.

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Old 11-25-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The last thing we need for president is another billionaire businessman with no political experience.

I don't care how much you dislike politicians, you don't want somebody to be the Top Politician In The Land to be somebody with no political experience any more than you would want your Head Electrician to be somebody with no experience as an electrician.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:47 PM
 
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The last thing we need for president is another billionaire businessman with no political experience.

I don't care how much you dislike politicians, you don't want somebody to be the Top Politician In The Land to be somebody with no political experience any more than you would want your Head Electrician to be somebody with no experience as an electrician.
Dwight Eisenhower was a general, great president. Same for Ulysses S. Grant. I think the country is doing very well under our first businessman president, although a little more controversy than many of us would like, it's hard to argue against the results.

So your a no on Schultz, who are you a yes on? Just curious
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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The last thing we need for president is another billionaire businessman with no political experience.

I don't care how much you dislike politicians, you don't want somebody to be the Top Politician In The Land to be somebody with no political experience any more than you would want your Head Electrician to be somebody with no experience as an electrician.
What we need is a plumber !!! Democrats are clogging the sewer with one turd after another !!!

They know about drains too !!! Pelosi has clogged up the House and nothing helpful to the American people is coming out of there !!! It's all about the flow and I don't mean Aunt Floe in her feathered boa either !!!
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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I voted for Trump in 16 and plan to vote for him again next year unless given a better option. I think the democrat party has a lack of leadership and their impeachment effort is a result of that. They have caved to the angriest and most radical of their base, basically they are a lost party right now. A moderate with reasonable policies and the ability to reach the general voters will not be coming out of that party next year.

Hence, Howard Shultz. If he decides to run, he won't need to go through the democrat primary as he is a centrist independent. Trump has shown you don't really need support from the party to become president, only support from the voters and enough personal wealth to run your campaign, which Howard has plenty of ($4 billion).

If you've been watching the democrat debates, it's clear the outdated debate format isn't helping any candidates. Howard can make appearances on media networks and popular podcasts like Joe Rogan, NPR, Ben Shapiro etc. He can do town halls, rallies, there is limitless ways to reach the public in 2020.

Schultz background:
* Grew up in a public housing project in Brooklyn (understands the struggle of many Americans)
* Worked and paid his way through college at Northern Michigan University
* First to graduate college in his family (his parents couldn't afford to attend his graduation)
* Door to door salesman after college
* Not a politician (huge plus)
* Self made businessman that built Starbucks into what it is today
* Has slammed the vilification of capitalism and concerned about the rise of socialism on the left

Howard is an impressive example of the American dream with a great inspirational story. He can challenge Trump in ways none of the democrat candidates can. With Joe Biden floundering and Bloomberg now stepping in, Howard is a fresh face and a true centrist that can appeal to a general public that is looking for exactly that. There is certainly an opening there as the left is failing to offer it.

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The party needs a centrist. Biden was sorta that at first until he started saying the same dumb crap the other pimps are mouthing. Peddling promises of free this and free that. Someone's gotta pay and there ain't enough rich people to cover it all.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What we need is a plumber !!! Democrats are clogging the sewer with one turd after another !!!

They know about drains too !!! Pelosi has clogged up the House and nothing helpful to the American people is coming out of there !!! It's all about the flow and I don't mean Aunt Floe in her feathered boa either !!!
You are right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dems need to be plumbers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That way they can clean out the leaking sewage currently occupying the White House !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then they can fix the pipes to clean things up again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After that they can do a complete renovation of the bathroom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make it all nice and clean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Dwight Eisenhower was a general, great president. Same for Ulysses S. Grant. I think the country is doing very well under our first businessman president, although a little more controversy than many of us would like, it's hard to argue against the results.

So your a no on Schultz, who are you a yes on? Just curious
I am a no on Schultz. Right now my top pick is Klobuchar.

A military general involves a fair amount of diplomacy and political tactics, so that's a close surrogate.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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You are right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dems need to be plumbers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That way they can clean out the leaking sewage currently occupying the White House !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then they can fix the pipes to clean things up again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After that they can do a complete renovation of the bathroom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make it all nice and clean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I should of know better than to come here to try to have a serious conversation.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Well I should of know better than to come here to try to have a serious conversation.
Should have known better.

If you want somebody to have a serious conversation with phma, maybe you should tell him to stop with the !!! after every single solitary sentence.
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Old 11-25-2019, 04:32 PM
 
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I’m a trumper and would consider Shultz but I think that ship has sailed...
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