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Old 11-25-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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All caused by the Patriot Act. Yes the GOP set this up and the irony is that the first POTUS to be caught was a GOP POTUS.

When they controlled both the house and Senate and Trump, they refused to change it and extended it.

The irony is hilarious.
The Globalist in both parties set this up.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: New York
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Seems fair after Obama administration did it to ruin Trump campaign for their personal gain? .

Cleanse the NSA, FBI of left wing Democrats, get the FISA secret courts and tools of the surveillance state up and running ?
This is the way the Dem's have abused the system for years. What do you mean by "get the FISA secret courts and tools of the surveillance state up and running"? When were they dismantled?

Fire every unelected bureaucrat who deems themselves above the law and abuses the system to advance their personal ideologies.






What everyone wants to know: Is that f in the title an accident or intentional?
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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The DNC and Hillary already have a track record of using Ukraine and Russian assets to dig up dirt on Trump.
Only Hillary, the DNC, and other like minded Democrats can use foreigners to dig up dirt on their political rivals. If anyone else does it, it would be Illegal, after all their Allies they installed in government jobs said so.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Seems fair after Obama administration did it to ruin Trump campaign for their personal gain? .

Cleanse the NSA, FBI of left wing Democrats, get the FISA secret courts and tools of the surveillance state up and running ?
yes, Trump should engage all of the surveillance state to spy on the Democrats to gather information in case they might be colluding with foreign nations....like Obama did to Trump.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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All caused by the Patriot Act. Yes the GOP set this up and the irony is that the first POTUS to be caught was a GOP POTUS.

When they controlled both the house and Senate and Trump, they refused to change it and extended it.

The irony is hilarious.

The Patriot Act made Obama spy on the Trump campaign?
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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This is the way the Dem's have abused the system for years. What do you mean by "get the FISA secret courts and tools of the surveillance state up and running"? When were they dismantled?



Fire every unelected bureaucrat who deems themselves above the law and abuses the system to advance their personal ideologies.
I meant Trump should cleanse the intelligence agencies and use surveillance and foreign assets, fake, altered dossiers against Joe Biden Campaign .

this guy or people in his campaign could be foreign agents.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: New York
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The Patriot Act made Obama spy on the Trump campaign?
According to Boss the Patriot Act is a product of the Pubs. So, in his mind, it is the GOP's fault that Obama spied on the GOP. NM that it was authored by Kyl (R-AZ), Hatch (R-UT) AND Feinstein (D-CA) and Schumer (D-NY)

See how that works?

It's quite scary how people rationalize utter nonsense these days. Both parties are to blame for that monstrosity of civil rights denial. That and the NDAA are both illegal.


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I meant Trump should cleanse the intelligence agencies and use surveillance and foreign assets, fake, altered dossiers against Joe Biden Campaign .

this guy or people in his campaign could be foreign agents.
I meant what I said. Trump shouldn't do anything like that whatsoever. It would make him as bad as the Dem's.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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According to Boss the Patriot Act is a product of the Pubs. So, in his mind, it is the GOP's fault that Obama spied on the GOP. NM that it was authored by Kyl (R-AZ), Hatch (R-UT) AND Feinstein (D-CA) and Schumer (D-NY)

See how that works?

It's quite scary how people rationalize utter nonsense these days. Both parties are to blame for that monstrosity of civil rights denial. That and the NDAA are both illegal.



I meant what I said. Trump shouldn't do anything like that whatsoever. It would make him as bad as the Dem's.
I would love to see the whole sorry lot prosecuted, clapper, comey, page, all the way to Obama prosecuted. Once you start down this road to a surveillance state, tough to turn back. If the Democrats win, they will continue to use the intelligence agencies for their own benefit.
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