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Old 11-27-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Schiff was trying to block this testimony from being released, but it was finally released - during Thanksgiving week.

Mark Sandy explains why Trump blocked aid from the Ukraine for a time. It's the only reason given under testimony that Trump withheld military aid.

DEPOSITION OF: MARK SANDY

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Q: Okay. At any point in time, from the moment that you walked into the SCIF to anytime in history, has Mr. Duffey even provided to you a reason why the President wanted to place a hold on security assistance?

A: I recall in early September an email that attributed the hold to the President’s concern about other countries not contributing more to Ukraine.


And if you read thru the subsequent pages, it goes into questioning about those details.

So now we have testimony about why aid wasn't given. It wasn't Biden. There's nothing impeachable here.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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So the whole thing is a "Hoax" !!!

A political gambit trying to satisfy the democrats lust for power !!!

Forget "Gambit" as it's known in Marvel Comics ( Gambit belongs to a subspecies of humans called mutants ) if you can !!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambit_(comics)

Apply the dictionary definition !!!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gambit
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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Squirm, Trump voters. Squirm.

Trying so hard to make it seem as if Trump is some sort of innocent victim when every Trump voter here knows he's up to his eyeballs in impropriety.

Enjoy spinning yourselves into a tizzy, though.
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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US Total Spending on Ukraine since 2014: $3 Billion
EU Total Spending on Ukraine since 2014: $16.4 Billion

I am not sure if Trump knows he is President of the US... not EU?


"Since 2014, the EU and European financial institutions have contributed more than $16.4 billion (15 billion euros) in grants and loans, the EU spokesperson told us."

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...id-to-ukraine/

"The Europeans did a whole lot more than the United States in terms of actual cash put into the Ukrainian budget," said Samuel Charap, a Ukraine analyst with RAND, a nonprofit research organization.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ve-not-put-mo/



EU : Soft Power since they live next door to Russia.
US : Military Aid


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Old 11-27-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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That narrative was cooked up in the White House when they realized their extortion effort was exposed. White House emails show the lengths they went to to come up with a plausible story about why the aid was withheld. Of course a cover-up is obstruction, which is another impeachable offense.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ls-ukraine-aid
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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Trump keeps throwing excuses at a wall, hoping something sticks. It won't. He's knee deep in corruption and lies and he got caught. The money was appropriated by congress and a president doesn't not have a legal right to hold it up for any reason.
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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That narrative was cooked up in the White House when they realized their extortion effort was exposed. White House emails show the lengths they went to to come up with a plausible story about why the aid was withheld. Of course a cover-up is obstruction, which is another impeachable offense.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ls-ukraine-aid
You and your facts.

Factual information has no place in pro-Trump C-D posts!
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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Squirm, Trump voters. Squirm.

Trying so hard to make it seem as if Trump is some sort of innocent victim when every Trump voter here knows he's up to his eyeballs in impropriety.

Enjoy spinning yourselves into a tizzy, though.
The truth hurts. I understand.

Schiff has nothing.


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Originally Posted by TwoByFour View Post
That narrative was cooked up in the White House when they realized their extortion effort was exposed. White House emails show the lengths they went to to come up with a plausible story about why the aid was withheld. Of course a cover-up is obstruction, which is another impeachable offense.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ls-ukraine-aid
Prove it.

We all know Obama was born in Kenya.

We all know Trump was digging up dirt on Biden for personal benefit.

You can put both of those in the same file folder.
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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Schiff was trying to block this testimony from being released, but it was finally released - during Thanksgiving week.

Mark Sandy explains why Trump blocked aid from the Ukraine for a time. It's the only reason given under testimony that Trump withheld military aid.

DEPOSITION OF: MARK SANDY

Page 42...

Q: Okay. At any point in time, from the moment that you walked into the SCIF to anytime in history, has Mr. Duffey even provided to you a reason why the President wanted to place a hold on security assistance?

A: I recall in early September an email that attributed the hold to the President’s concern about other countries not contributing more to Ukraine.


And if you read thru the subsequent pages, it goes into questioning about those details.

So now we have testimony about why aid wasn't given. It wasn't Biden. There's nothing impeachable here.

The aid was withheld in late July and restored on Sept 11. Intelligent Americans know that any memo giving an alternate reason for the halt as early as Sept 1 as a coverup.


To the rest of you. Beware of the sequence of events here and their places in time. If you recall, Pelosi was willing to hold of on impeachment before this new sin became obvious.
Here are some details regarding what happened when: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...int-annotated/
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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The truth hurts. I understand.

Schiff has nothing.
It's gone way beyond Schiff now. Are you having a problem keeping up?
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