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Agreed but nowhere near as many as white American. And right-wing white Americans are always begging black Americans to jump on the bandwagon with them on immigration.
ITA agree with the bold. It's like dude I can make up my own mind. And it's done under the guise of "Do you know that they are taking away jobs from BLACK people?" Uh huh, and so are Asians when they open their hair stores in black neighborhoods, don't hire blacks, put all that money back into their OWN economy, and then treat blacks (who make up the majority of their clientele) like the lowest scum of the earth.
DISCLAIMER-I'm not talking about ALL Asians. #NotAll #NotAll #NotAll #NotAll #NotAll #NotAll #NotAll
ITA agree with the bold. It's like dude I can make up my own mind. And it's done under the guise of "Do you know that they are taking away jobs from BLACK people?" Uh huh, and so are Asians when they open their hair stores in black neighborhoods, don't hire blacks, put all that money back into their OWN economy, and then treat blacks (who make up the majority of their clientele) like the lowest scum of the earth.
But we can guess what Republicans say to Asians and Latinos when we're not in the room, which is why we don't buy it.
But we can guess what Republicans say to Asians and Latinos when we're not in the room, which is why we don't buy it.
Yes we can and they are more likely saying these statements to Asians than Latinos. Though with Latinos...............I'd say it's more of your white and mestizo Latinos than your black and mulatto Latinos.
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I remember asking about cultural appropriation in an old thread. It seemed to have really become a big deal in 2016. Do you think that it’s accurate to an extent? Why or why not? Do you think the fuss will die off after the election?
There’s only “popular appropriation” or “cool appropriation.”
And black folks are just as guilty as everyone else when it comes to both phenomena. It’s an argument that I’m really getting sick of hearing. Black folks need to back the hell off that BS.
But we can guess what Republicans say to Asians and Latinos when we're not in the room, which is why we don't buy it.
Which is why I refuse to join hands with conservatives on issues like illegal immigration.
Conservatives LOVE to say to blacks that illegal immigrants hurt blacks more, but when illegal immigrants were replacing whites in several industries across this country, they didn’t say a word. In fact, they voted Republican...the very people that these business owners appealed to to look the other way while they brought in their cheap labor forces to displace more expensive white workers.
Whites didn’t start getting mad over it until they realized that tens of millions of immigrant Latinos could change the cultural and political balance, and they got REAL scared about it. So NOW, they wanna make an appeal to African Americans to join hands with them to help end illegal immigration so as not to dilute white political power. They don’t really give a damn about African Americans.
I will not forget that in 1959, whites welcomed in hundreds of thousands of Hispanic Cubans into Jim Crow Florida and put them ahead of native African Americans in jobs, housing and civil administration positions all across Dade County. And other African Americans would do good to remember that time and that event because it foreshadows what’s gonna continue to happen elsewhere.
The truth of the matter is that white working class people are gonna lose this fight on immigration in the long run. Trump is just giving them a short respite. He can’t stop it or win it either. And if we jump into this fight to aid them in the fight against illegal immigration, we’ll take the blame for being anti immigrant when the war is lost. Whites will tell the Hispanics that it was African Americans all along who were the leaders in the fight. That way, they figure that it’ll help break any fragile coalition that blacks and Hispanics have in the Democratic Party.
Like you said in your post, I know damn well what they say about blacks to Hispanics and Asians when we aren’t in the room, and it’s not good. They are TRASHING us, and trashing us real bad. Anyone assuming otherwise is fooling themselves.
Illegal immigration hurts everyone. I don't care if your purple. My filipina wife is usually pretty pissed when she reads about all this furor from the democrats about leniency for illegals. She came here and did it through legal route which is expensive and a total pain in the ass.I worked with Mexicans most of my life,even they after becoming residents or citizens looked down on the ones trying to beat the "system"
We simply need to decide on a set of rules/laws which apply to all. Like my wife says... why are so many south Americans allowed here and not Asians? I checked into applying for her parents to come here on a visa for relatives...……..the wait for Mexicans is half what it is for Filipinos.
We cannot simply just open the faucet and let everyone in. set quotas for each country and set a limit for yearly allowances.
Good luck on the separate races/nationalities getting over their prejudice's. The whites bad mouth Asians,blacks,mexicans just as much as those people bad mouth each other,and whites. Its an individual thing. its a waste of time. I learned a long time ago you just simply take each individual at face value. A white person can and has screwed me over just as much if not more than a Mexican,asian or black.
50 years from now? who knows?
Illegal immigration hurts everyone. I don't care if your purple. My filipina wife is usually pretty pissed when she reads about all this furor from the democrats about leniency for illegals. She came here and did it through legal route which is expensive and a total pain in the ass.I worked with Mexicans most of my life,even they after becoming residents or citizens looked down on the ones trying to beat the "system"
We simply need to decide on a set of rules/laws which apply to all. Like my wife says... why are so many south Americans allowed here and not Asians? I checked into applying for her parents to come here on a visa for relatives...……..the wait for Mexicans is half what it is for Filipinos.
We cannot simply just open the faucet and let everyone in. set quotas for each country and set a limit for yearly allowances.
Good luck on the separate races/nationalities getting over their prejudice's. The whites bad mouth Asians,blacks,mexicans just as much as those people bad mouth each other,and whites. Its an individual thing. its a waste of time. I learned a long time ago you just simply take each individual at face value. A white person can and has screwed me over just as much if not more than a Mexican,asian or black.
50 years from now? who knows?
On the bold, there actually IS a growing population of Asian undocumented individuals and it's not expected to slow down anytime soon.
Obviously we cannot just take everyone in. No country can. Simply not enough room. That being said, I do think the way deportations are handled needs to be reviewed. It should have been reviewed with the Obama administration as well. But like desertdetroiter, I refuse to junk on that bandwagon with the Anglo Saxon population that pulls the "immigration affects blacks the most" card as I know that that particular segment of the white population doesn't care for me either and in fact is the same population trying to exterminate my race via other means such as sterilization.
Many illegal immigrants also come in as vacationers and just don't leave after that 90 day grace period.
I do think that a real dialogue does need to take place on reasonable policies. The current policies DO need to be reviewed. Bickering back and fourth hasn't gotten us anywhere (NOTE: I'm speaking in general, not in this particular discussion).
Like you said in your post, I know damn well what they say about blacks to Hispanics and Asians when we aren’t in the room, and it’s not good. They are TRASHING us, and trashing us real bad. Anyone assuming otherwise is fooling themselves.
What do you think the model minority myth about Asian Americans was created for? Exactly what you've mentioned above.
On the bold, there actually IS a growing population of Asian undocumented individuals and it's not expected to slow down anytime soon.
Obviously we cannot just take everyone in. No country can. Simply not enough room. That being said, I do think the way deportations are handled needs to be reviewed. It should have been reviewed with the Obama administration as well. But like desertdetroiter, I refuse to junk on that bandwagon with the Anglo Saxon population that pulls the "immigration affects blacks the most" card as I know that that particular segment of the white population doesn't care for me either and in fact is the same population trying to exterminate my race via other means such as sterilization.
Many illegal immigrants also come in as vacationers and just don't leave after that 90 day grace period.
I do think that a real dialogue does need to take place on reasonable policies. The current policies DO need to be reviewed. Bickering back and fourth hasn't gotten us anywhere (NOTE: I'm speaking in general, not in this particular discussion).
Which is why I refuse to join hands with conservatives on issues like illegal immigration.
Conservatives LOVE to say to blacks that illegal immigrants hurt blacks more, but when illegal immigrants were replacing whites in several industries across this country, they didn’t say a word. In fact, they voted Republican...the very people that these business owners appealed to to look the other way while they brought in their cheap labor forces to displace more expensive white workers.
Whites didn’t start getting mad over it until they realized that tens of millions of immigrant Latinos could change the cultural and political balance, and they got REAL scared about it. So NOW, they wanna make an appeal to African Americans to join hands with them to help end illegal immigration so as not to dilute white political power. They don’t really give a damn about African Americans.
I will not forget that in 1959, whites welcomed in hundreds of thousands of Hispanic Cubans into Jim Crow Florida and put them ahead of native African Americans in jobs, housing and civil administration positions all across Dade County. And other African Americans would do good to remember that time and that event because it foreshadows what’s gonna continue to happen elsewhere.
The truth of the matter is that white working class people are gonna lose this fight on immigration in the long run. Trump is just giving them a short respite. He can’t stop it or win it either. And if we jump into this fight to aid them in the fight against illegal immigration, we’ll take the blame for being anti immigrant when the war is lost. Whites will tell the Hispanics that it was African Americans all along who were the leaders in the fight. That way, they figure that it’ll help break any fragile coalition that blacks and Hispanics have in the Democratic Party.
Like you said in your post, I know damn well what they say about blacks to Hispanics and Asians when we aren’t in the room, and it’s not good. They are TRASHING us, and trashing us real bad. Anyone assuming otherwise is fooling themselves.
On illegal immigration:
Illegal immigration is worth billions of dollars annually to businesses large and small across the US. Illegal labor is a multi-billion dollar industry.
Neither party is going to put a dent in that. Effectively eliminating illegal labor is not in the interest of business, and documenting immigrant labor is not in the interest of business.
Business wants illegal labor to stay illegal because that's how they get away with paying slave wages with zero employer taxes and zero employee benefits.
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