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Old 12-03-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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False. Free trade is a conservative, free-market, pro-business ideology. It was leftists who were at the forefront of the anti-globalization movement while conservatives insisted foreign nations sell their state-owned companies and natural resources and institute free trade.
globalization is socialism...a leftist ideology



but it was Clinton/gore that did the "full court press" for globalism

and where did 'freetrade' (ie nafta, caftan, or Obama's ofta) come from...the globalist liberals

NAFTA dreamed up by carter... negotiated by globalist liberal bush1, passed by the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS, full court press by Clinton to get it passed....signed by Clinton and EXPANDED by Clinton



freetrade was started by the GLOBALIST LIBERALS.... started under carter

pushed and negotiated by globalist bush1

pushed and signed by globalist Clinton

expanded by globalist Clinton, globalist bush2, and globalist Obama (senator Obama even had his own freetrade agreement with Oman)

THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD; PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD
By DOUGLAS JEHL,
Published: November 9, 1993

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8— President Clinton began an intensive face-to-face effort today to persuade lawmakers to throw their support behind the North American Free Trade Agreement as the White House added to his criticisms of labor unions who are the chief opponents of the accord.

Struggling to find the 218 votes he needs for the agreement's approval in the House of Representatives, Mr. Clinton met from morning until well into the night with pairs and small groups of Democratic members of Congress, nearly all of whom had not declared their position.

--snip--
THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD - PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD - NYTimes.com
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NAFTA Engulfs Clinton Team - Defeat Would Be 'Catastrophic' - NYTimes.com
WASHINGTON— Sharpening an already intensive lobbying campaign on the North American Free Trade Agreement, top aides to President Bill Clinton issued dire warnings on Sunday to reach for last-minute congressional votes.

A failure by Congress to ratify the trade accord would be "catastrophic" for U.S. foreign policy, Vice President Al Gore said in a broadcast interview.

Trade Representative Mickey Kantor said rejection of NAFTA would be "shameful." He also defended the White House against assertions that votes were being secured by promises of federal largesse to individual lawmakers.

Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen warned of "a real tragedy" in U.S.-Mexican relations if NAFTA fails, saying that Mexican politics would return to a era in which the United States was reviled.

Faced with considerable reluctance on the part of some Republicans, Mr. Clinton, a Democrat, promised to support them on the issue of NAFTA if a Democrat criticizes their votes in the 1994 election campaigns.

Mr. Gore reiterated the White House view that a defeat on NAFTA would be a blow to Mr. Clinton personally and to U.S. efforts to attain freer trade globally and in Asia.

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hmmm reluctance to pass NAFTA by the republicans, Clinton promised to SUPPORT them against the democrats......hmmm
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and as soon as nafta passed he went after CHINA

Clinton Puts a Foot In the Opening Door Of the Global Market - NYTimes.com

Such are the realities that Bill Clinton and his economic strategists have begun to acknowledge in a new vision of American relations with Asia -- a vision that Mr. Clinton spelled out forcefully at the meeting of Pacific leaders that concluded here this weekend. It is a vision that implies tradeoffs and job displacements far more wrenching than any posed by the North American Free Trade Agreement, which the Democrat controlled House approved last week after a Herculean display of Presidential persuasion.

Previous presidents have steered clear of the politically uncomfortable fact that Mr. Clinton addressed head-on on Friday: Creating a job for a factory worker in Seattle may first require creating six jobs in Jakarta. The new world order, Mr. Clinton suggested, seamlessly integrates security and economics. Indeed, he touted the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum -- the little-known economic consulting group under whose auspices the Pacific leaders gathered -- as something of a latter-day NATO. He said "our place in the world will be determined as much by the skills of our workers as by the strength of our weapons, as much by our ability to pull down foreign trade barriers as our ability to breach distant ramparts."

In political terms, of course, much of this oratory is about building on Nafta, Mr. Clinton's first big foreign policy win. Secretary of State Warren Christopher said Nafta should be the first out in a "triple play," one that now turns to economic integration of the Pacific and then to tearing down still more trade barriers under a new, much delayed global trade accord, which faces a deadline in mid-December.

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and he continued to EXPAND nafta...
Chile Is Admitted as North American Free Trade Partner - NYTimes.com

MIAMI, Dec. 11— President Clinton and the leaders of Canada and Mexico said today that they had agreed to admit Chile to the North American Free Trade Agreement, a move that clearly puts pressure on the other nations of South and Central America to speed the opening of their markets if they want expanded trade with the United States.

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Old 12-03-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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they're not gonna like it someday when we tell them to take a hike and we renounce their ownership of anything in this country.
Not to worry, the demolibs will sell out America if/when in power. Look at the Clintons and their Pay to Play foundation scam. The year or two between Hillary being SOS and running in 2016, that foundation raked in millions from foreign governments. Now look at that foundations intake. Isn't it obvious why the intake tanked starting right after she lost the 2016 election? Had Hillary won in 2016, she would have sold this country out to the point of ZERO return.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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globalization is socialism...a leftist ideology



but it was Clinton/gore that did the "full court press" for globalism

and where did 'freetrade' (ie nafta, caftan, or Obama's ofta) come from...the globalist liberals

NAFTA dreamed up by carter... negotiated by globalist liberal bush1, passed by the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS, full court press by Clinton to get it passed....signed by Clinton and EXPANDED by Clinton



freetrade was started by the GLOBALIST LIBERALS.... started under carter

pushed and negotiated by globalist bush1

pushed and signed by globalist Clinton

expanded by globalist Clinton, globalist bush2, and globalist Obama (senator Obama even had his own freetrade agreement with Oman)

THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD; PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD
By DOUGLAS JEHL,
Published: November 9, 1993

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8— President Clinton began an intensive face-to-face effort today to persuade lawmakers to throw their support behind the North American Free Trade Agreement as the White House added to his criticisms of labor unions who are the chief opponents of the accord.

Struggling to find the 218 votes he needs for the agreement's approval in the House of Representatives, Mr. Clinton met from morning until well into the night with pairs and small groups of Democratic members of Congress, nearly all of whom had not declared their position.

--snip--
THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD - PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD - NYTimes.com
=====================


NAFTA Engulfs Clinton Team - Defeat Would Be 'Catastrophic' - NYTimes.com
WASHINGTON— Sharpening an already intensive lobbying campaign on the North American Free Trade Agreement, top aides to President Bill Clinton issued dire warnings on Sunday to reach for last-minute congressional votes.

A failure by Congress to ratify the trade accord would be "catastrophic" for U.S. foreign policy, Vice President Al Gore said in a broadcast interview.

Trade Representative Mickey Kantor said rejection of NAFTA would be "shameful." He also defended the White House against assertions that votes were being secured by promises of federal largesse to individual lawmakers.

Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen warned of "a real tragedy" in U.S.-Mexican relations if NAFTA fails, saying that Mexican politics would return to a era in which the United States was reviled.

Faced with considerable reluctance on the part of some Republicans, Mr. Clinton, a Democrat, promised to support them on the issue of NAFTA if a Democrat criticizes their votes in the 1994 election campaigns.

Mr. Gore reiterated the White House view that a defeat on NAFTA would be a blow to Mr. Clinton personally and to U.S. efforts to attain freer trade globally and in Asia.

========================

hmmm reluctance to pass NAFTA by the republicans, Clinton promised to SUPPORT them against the democrats......hmmm
---------

and as soon as nafta passed he went after CHINA

Clinton Puts a Foot In the Opening Door Of the Global Market - NYTimes.com

Such are the realities that Bill Clinton and his economic strategists have begun to acknowledge in a new vision of American relations with Asia -- a vision that Mr. Clinton spelled out forcefully at the meeting of Pacific leaders that concluded here this weekend. It is a vision that implies tradeoffs and job displacements far more wrenching than any posed by the North American Free Trade Agreement, which the Democrat controlled House approved last week after a Herculean display of Presidential persuasion.

Previous presidents have steered clear of the politically uncomfortable fact that Mr. Clinton addressed head-on on Friday: Creating a job for a factory worker in Seattle may first require creating six jobs in Jakarta. The new world order, Mr. Clinton suggested, seamlessly integrates security and economics. Indeed, he touted the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum -- the little-known economic consulting group under whose auspices the Pacific leaders gathered -- as something of a latter-day NATO. He said "our place in the world will be determined as much by the skills of our workers as by the strength of our weapons, as much by our ability to pull down foreign trade barriers as our ability to breach distant ramparts."

In political terms, of course, much of this oratory is about building on Nafta, Mr. Clinton's first big foreign policy win. Secretary of State Warren Christopher said Nafta should be the first out in a "triple play," one that now turns to economic integration of the Pacific and then to tearing down still more trade barriers under a new, much delayed global trade accord, which faces a deadline in mid-December.

------------

and he continued to EXPAND nafta...
Chile Is Admitted as North American Free Trade Partner - NYTimes.com

MIAMI, Dec. 11— President Clinton and the leaders of Canada and Mexico said today that they had agreed to admit Chile to the North American Free Trade Agreement, a move that clearly puts pressure on the other nations of South and Central America to speed the opening of their markets if they want expanded trade with the United States.
Then why did the majority of Democrats in Congress oppose it? And why did Republicans offer up no opposition to it whatsoever. Globalization is part of the starve public services, lower taxes on the wealthy, and remove regulations on businesses agenda. Virtually all opposition to free trade agreements has come from the left.

NAFTA House Vote: 234-200 https://www.citizen.org/article/fina...vote-on-nafta/
Democrats Voting Yes: 102 Democrats Voting No: 156
Republicans Voting Yes: 132 Republicans Voting No: 42

NAFTA Senate Vote: 61-38 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s395
Democrats Voting Yes: 27 Democrats Voting No: 28
Republicans Voting Yes: 34 Republicans Voting No: 10

Let's look even more recently, the Central American Free Trade deal (CAFTA) of 2005. Which party opposed it with a great majority and which supported?

CAFTA House Vote: 217-215 http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll443.xml
Democrats Voting Yes: 15 Democrats Voting No: 187
Republicans Voting Yes: 202 Republicans Voting No: 27

CAFTA Senate Vote: 55-45 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2005/s170
Democrats Voting Yes: 10 Democrats Voting No: 33
Republicans Voting Yes: 43 Republicans Voting No: 12
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