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But did McCormick or her family say anything about it at the time? Or anyone else connected to the show? I bet not. Saying all of that now, when the horse is long out of the barn, comes across as very silly.
No one said anything because it was a reflection of reality. People could relate because it was what HAPPENED.
If people had the same insanity about measles that the OP insists everyone have -- total fear, mandatory vaccination for the world, beliefs that 90% of people who get measles will die -- there is NO WAY that Brady Bunch program would have ever aired. Ever.
Stop trying to rewrite history because of misguided fear and total support and complete and servitude to the medical industrial complex. No sense of common sense.
I've also noted that in general, there is a difference in caring if people do or do not get sick, or if people get vaccinated.
All the OP cares about is that people get vaccinated. As shown in her hundreds of posts in her every 3-4 days a new measles thread pattern.
But the media plays a tremendous part in pushing vaccines. What other product on nightly news gets an advertising plug from the tv news reporter as part of a "health story"? None. Only vaccines. Every flu story ends in: Get your vaccine with a list of places to go get it. Every. single. story. That's advertising. Not news. I mean, EVERYONE knows where they can get shots and that they are available this time of year. Everyone.
Yesterday, it was measles and mumps on TV sitcoms. Gone today, however, we have another one now, the FLU, specially what is joking called "Man" Flu.
I overheard some show husband was watching (Big Bang Theory?) where the main character (science geek) had the flu. His girlfriend was complaining about what a baby he was being with his Man Flu.
As with measles in the past, today jokes are being made about the flu, because the viewing public can relate to this as they could with measles in the past. The writers should not do this? The Flu is "no joking matter". Be serious. People are dying. Scare people when you talk about it. Show rows of hospital beds from 1918. Report there have been 500 confirmed cases in a state. 80,000 people have DIED
Motive? Scare people so they will go out and get their flu shots. Hasn't worked with the flu, yet.
Because people are able to understand that it's fear mongering, and that the number of deaths are inflated.
Yes, three posters on this forum (out of 9 total, and I'm being conservative with the number, there are three more who made anti-vaccine comments) have said they thought measles was "no big deal", "can't remember it", blah, blah. And I've been on many vaccine forums where people talk about the advantages of the VPDs, including measles (lifetime immunity, 2 months more passive immunity for a baby born to a mother who had "natural" measles, some alleged cancer prevention). I think pro-disease sums it up correctly.
There were some who didn’t have that bad of a time with measles. That does not make them “pro-disease”. Lifetime immunity and passive immunity are big pros to have had something like measles or chicken pox but it doesn’t mean that someone is “pro-disease”. That’s really divisive, disingenuous language you’re choosing to use.
The "grand dame" of anti-vaccinism, Barbara Loe Fisher, helped craft the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act.
Barbara Loe Fisher is a mother of a vaccine injured child. Her son suffered brain damage after the DPT vaccine which was eventually taken off of the market and replaced with dtap. Before she was outspoken about vaccine safety, she was a “pro-vaxxer” who got her child his shots on schedule, until he was injured and the “pro-vax” community turned their backs on her and her son and continue to demonize her to this day.
Barbara Loe Fisher is a mother of a vaccine injured child. Her son suffered brain damage after the DPT vaccine which was eventually taken off of the market and replaced with dtap. Before she was outspoken about vaccine safety, she was a “pro-vaxxer” who got her child his shots on schedule, until he was injured and the “pro-vax” community turned their backs on her and her son and continue to demonize her to this day.
"Vaccine Injury" is a legal term, not a medical one. DTP was not withdrawn from the market. It is still used in some countries, including some first world countries, e.g. Poland. https://vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa...IdByDisease=-1
Some of the problems some people attributed to DTP vaccine were later found to be due to Dravet Syndrome and would have happened to these kids regardless. https://www.jwatch.org/jn20100727000...accination-and
Fisher's kid was not on schedule with vaccines; he was getting his 4th DTP at age 2 1/2, something that should have been done a full year earlier. Seems like she had her issues with vaccines before her son had a seizure. https://www.juneva.com/2019/08/24/my...ra-loe-fisher/
Fisher was one of the architects of the NVICPA.
Fisher says her son has learning disabilities and calls herself an "autism mom".
Barbara Loe Fisher - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com "Here is what Barbara Loe Fisher, who calls herself an "autism mom," wrote on her blog after Jenny McCarthy appeared on Oprah's show in 2007 as a "warrior mom" in the fight against vaccines as the cause of autism: . . . I do find her intelligent and can see why many people find her one-sided and incomplete arguments persuasive. She's very good at combining accurate information with misleading claims to give the impression that the risk of serious negative effects from vaccines is significantly greater than the risk of serious ill effects from the diseases they protect against."
"Vaccine Injury" is a legal term, not a medical one.
And that statement means what exactly? That vaccines never hurt children? Is that your point? Because you make it loud and clear in every thread you start and in every post.
And it's funny, too, since it's not a medical term ... no doctor can make that assessment, right? Works for your agenda, as a predetermined, can't happen, never-a-diagnosis, findanotherICD.
Of course not as it was experienced! How do you think great art or entertaining t.v. is made? Not by being literal.
Yet you are saying that it accurately describes how parents felt about measles at the time. Aren't you "being literal"?
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::Looking around::
Yeah, don't see them. All I see are people critical about a medical product with known risks whose manufacturers and the doctors who give them are protected from most lawsuits, even when that product sickens or kills people due to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act.
Thanks a lot, President Reagan!
Adverse reactions to vaccines are rare and not due to defects in the vaccines. If someone has an allergic reaction to peanuts should all peanuts be taken off the market and the peanut grower sued?
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No one said anything because it was a reflection of reality. People could relate because it was what HAPPENED.
If people had the same insanity about measles that the OP insists everyone have -- total fear, mandatory vaccination for the world, beliefs that 90% of people who get measles will die -- there is NO WAY that Brady Bunch program would have ever aired. Ever.
Stop trying to rewrite history because of misguided fear and total support and complete and servitude to the medical industrial complex. No sense of common sense.
Please link to any post here on CD where the OP has claimed "90% of people who get measles will die."
You will not find one, since she has always said the risk is about one in a thousand, so continuing to say that just makes you look desperate to exaggerate the risks of vaccines and try to make the vaccine appear more dangerous than the disease.
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The point?
The show was APPROVED.
So it aired. And people thought it was funny.
I suspect that the parents who had children who died or were permanently brain damaged by measles did not think it was funny.
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I've also noted that in general, there is a difference in caring if people do or do not get sick, or if people get vaccinated.
All the OP cares about is that people get vaccinated. As shown in her hundreds of posts in her every 3-4 days a new measles thread pattern.
But the media plays a tremendous part in pushing vaccines. What other product on nightly news gets an advertising plug from the tv news reporter as part of a "health story"? None. Only vaccines. Every flu story ends in: Get your vaccine with a list of places to go get it. Every. single. story. That's advertising. Not news. I mean, EVERYONE knows where they can get shots and that they are available this time of year. Everyone.
So why the constant coverage???
The OP does care about people getting sick. She advocates for vaccines because they prevent people from getting sick.
The "constant coverage" is because a lot of people get sick from flu each year, some years more than others. That makes it news.
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Because people are able to understand that it's fear mongering, and that the number of deaths are inflated.
However, it is not "fear mongering" to tell people vaccines cause autism (they do not) and inflate the number of "vaccine injuries" to try to keep people from vaccinating. I see.
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Are you talking about people in this thread who shared their experiences with measles?
There were some who didn’t have that bad of a time with measles. That does not make them “pro-disease”. Lifetime immunity and passive immunity are big pros to have had something like measles or chicken pox but it doesn’t mean that someone is “pro-disease”. That’s really divisive, disingenuous language you’re choosing to use.
"Lifetime immunity" means bupkis if you have to get very sick in order to acquire it. What you are saying is that it is better to get measles than to take the vaccine. If that is not being pro-measles, what is it?
The difference in the duration of passive immunity for an infant of a mother who has had measles compared to a mother who has been vaccinated is about two months. What you are advocating is for every woman to have measles in order to provide that extra two months. Really? Isn't that being pro-measles?
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And that statement means what exactly? That vaccines never hurt children? Is that your point? Because you make it loud and clear in every thread you start and in every post.
And it's funny, too, since it's not a medical term ... no doctor can make that assessment, right? Works for your agenda, as a predetermined, can't happen, never-a-diagnosis, findanotherICD.
Adverse reactions to vaccines are many orders of magnitude less common than complications, including fatalities, from the diseases they prevent.
There are ICD codes for those adverse events. If those events do not happen, why are there codes for them?
The thing is that the only way you can rationalize your decision not to vaccinate is by exaggerating the risks of vaccines and denying the dangers of vaccine preventable diseases. You do that in every post you make. You might want to consider that by convincing others not to vaccinate, you are helping to damage the herd immunity that keeps your unvaccinated family from getting sick.
The ironic thing is that when a vaccine refuser's family does get sick from a vaccine preventable disease, the attitude tends to quickly undergo a change toward accepting vaccination.
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