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Old 12-01-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Carter provided grants to mental health centers. Reagan repealed most of this law. Shameful legacy of Reagan.
the democrat controlled congress (both houses) repealed it... Reagan HAD to sign the omnibus bill (budget bill)

The 1981 the Democrat controlled congress passed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act which repealed the provisions of the National Mental Health Systems Act, cut federal mental health and substance abuse allocations by twenty-five percent, and converted them to block grants disbursed with few strings attached. New York State, which used block-grant monies to fund community-based programs, and other states have to cut mental health programs.

 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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So you are saying wealthy states like California are incapable of addressing their homeless issue via mental health, without a grant from the federal government?

If it's just "their homeless," then they probably could do it on their own.

But if the homeless are flocking to their state from other states ( and even countries,) then yes, it becomes the federal matter.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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Seattle and SanFran is really bad. SanFran is filthy dirty. Absolutely disgusting. It's sad because they are both beautiful cities.
Very sad. They were, at one time, nice cities.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:11 PM
 
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Very sad. They were, at one time, nice cities.

Absolutely.
And to find Seattle in this situation is particularly shocking, because at certain point in time, it was recognized as the "most livable city in US."
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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the democrat controlled congress (both houses) repealed it... Reagan HAD to sign the omnibus bill (budget bill)
Do you ever fact check your posts, or are you deliberately misrepresenting facts? GOP held the Senate and WH, and no, Reagan did not have to sign it.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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no it should NOT be a federal matter if they want to continue to illegally be sanctuary cities

Oh I missed that part - sorry.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:45 PM
 
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no it should NOT be a federal matter if they want to continue to illegally be sanctuary cities
Agreed.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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There is no easy solution, but the best solution is to reopen the institutions that the psychiatric industry closed in the 70s and 80s. Many of these people need to be institutionalized and medicated. It’s much more humane than their current situation.
I agree.
 
Old 12-01-2019, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you ever fact check your posts, or are you deliberately misrepresenting facts? GOP held the Senate and WH, and no, Reagan did not have to sign it.
no..try again

the house...which is where all appropriations bills start was controlled by the dems

and yes Reagan was forced to sign it
 
Old 12-02-2019, 12:40 AM
 
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Read my post again to see what I said.
I did, hence my response. You are implying that due to this, this is why we have a homeless problem.

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If it's just "their homeless," then they probably could do it on their own.

But if the homeless are flocking to their state from other states ( and even countries,) then yes, it becomes the federal matter.
Cities and states that create idiotic policies that basically invite the homeless in, from other states and countries, should not have federal assistance in such matters.

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Do you ever fact check your posts, or are you deliberately misrepresenting facts? GOP held the Senate and WH, and no, Reagan did not have to sign it.
The Democrats controlled the House, in which the Omnibus bill was created, sponsored by a Democrat, and passed by the Democrat House and Republican Senate, signed by a Republican president. It was a bipartisan bill. And Reagan was not going to hold up a bipartisan bill over some mental health grants that were just put in place a year earlier.
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