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Old 12-02-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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NO he is a Russian useful idiot that has Putin laughing his ass off.
I'm pretty sure if Putin signed up on C-D he'd be laughing aloud at these threads and posts.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure if Putin signed up on C-D he'd be laughing aloud at these threads and posts.

I agree he would be laughing. Laughing with glee at how successful his disinformation campaigns have been.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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It's verifiably true that the Ukraine government interfered in the 2016 election. I'm not sure why some people are trying to deny it.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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The intelligence community's assessment is that it was only Russia that did so.

Senator Kennedy knows this. He's a smart man, an an attorney who attended the University of Oxford, Phi Beta Kappa, etc.

So why is he spreading Russian propaganda?

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...93850046550016
When you try to rebut an argument by an opponent by making accusations, you really don't have much of a case. The debate strategy relies on flinging innuendo and accusations first, and then disparaging anyone who is skeptical. It shows extreme fear that the assessment/case is fraudulent since the first and foremost defense of the argument is to attack. It evades a critical examination of the details.

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It's verifiably true that the Ukraine government interfered in the 2016 election. I'm not sure why some people are trying to deny it.
People knowingly lie. US, Britain, and Ukraine tried to entrap the Trump campaign into buying dirt on Hillary Clinton and breaking into the servers which were intentionally left open. Trump invited this attack by joking he wished the Russians would log in to their servers.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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I agree he would be laughing. Laughing with glee at how successful his disinformation campaigns have been.
Yeah, the same disinformation campaign the democrats promote to achieve Putin's goal !!!
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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The intelligence community's assessment is that it was only Russia that did so.

Senator Kennedy knows this. He's a smart man, an an attorney who attended the University of Oxford, Phi Beta Kappa, etc.

So why is he spreading Russian propaganda?
There is no such thing as Russian propaganda in this country.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It's verifiably true that the Ukraine government interfered in the 2016 election. I'm not sure why some people are trying to deny it.
According to right wing media it is "true". As has been pointed out, the US intelligence community indicates that "Ukrainian interference" is not true and the story is being disseminated by the Russians.

And of course it is the US intelligence community that is lying as opposed to the right wing media.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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Note that Senator Kennedy makes the Ukraine claim only on Fox, then takes it back on CNN or MSNBC. He is fully aware that the 'base' only watches Fox, so will not learn of his backpedal.



It is a smart, if dishonest, strategy.
Politics make intelligent people say stupid things.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It's verifiably true that the Ukraine government interfered in the 2016 election. I'm not sure why some people are trying to deny it.
Why don't you post the verification?
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Fear of what the 800 pound gorilla will do, say or tweet is why.

Also, the cash that the RNC is handing out as 'rewards' (or 'bribes' as they might otherwise be called) for defending him. Maybe Kennedy needs money.

Or dementia is contagious.
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