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Old 12-03-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Republicans are theocratic, not democratic.

only the religious right can truly be called that and i sympathize with fiscal conservatives the religious right has captured the party just as Goldwater predicted
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Republicans are theocratic, not democratic.
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only the religious right can truly be called that and i sympathize with fiscal conservatives the religious right has captured the party just as Goldwater predicted
Spot on comment.

The evangelical/fundamentalist protestant Christians have got the party by the short hairs.

Fiscal conservatives need not even be religious at all, so much the less protestant Christians. Some fiscal conservatives are Muslim, some are Jewish and some are atheists. These people are not expecting a 'rapture' and don't particularly want a middle eastern Armageddon which would satisfy no one except some confused Christian heretics. Fiscal conservatives are getting sick and tired of the Christian conservative lunacy.

So the religious right has saddled the nation with a corrupt, and basically incompetent president who sells us out every day in multiple ways. The Republican party has deteriorated into a pale reflection of it's former existence. A party which has lost a sense of itself.
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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only the religious right can truly be called that and i sympathize with fiscal conservatives the religious right has captured the party just as Goldwater predicted
On fiscal issues, I'm somewhat of a centrist. I'm also a centrist on immigration. However, I could NEVER consider voting for a Republican though as long as they continue to be the party that wants to control what I do with my body and who I can love. I can NEVER vote for a party based on the ideology that only people who conform to a narrow, rigid set of social norms are "real Americans."
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Republicans have a democratic process to elect the people that represent their party.
Are they also the Democratic Party based upon actions taken in the democratic process?????


What is up with this altering the meaning of language?
I hear and read all the time when referring to the Democrat Party, The person speaking or writing, refers to them as the Democratic Party.


Is the intent to confuse the ignorant?
Or is the person speaking ignorant?
When calling the democrat party is leaving off the ic because many people today believe the are not democratic at all. Just democrats .. democratic which means FOR THE PEOPLE.



The democrats are in the resistance mode to not get things done for WE THE PEOPLE. They are working for their power only . Example. USMCA not passed for the people . they resist .. they don't want to work for the people as long as Trump is in office. A very undemocratic thing to do.
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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When calling the democrat party is leaving off the ic because many people today believe the are not democratic at all. Just democrats .. democratic which means FOR THE PEOPLE.



The democrats are in the resistance mode to not get things done for WE THE PEOPLE. They are working for their power only . Example. USMCA not passed for the people . they resist .. they don't want to work for the people as long as Trump is in office. A very undemocratic thing to do.
Um, OK.

Doesn't change the fact that the legal, official name of the party in question is The Democratic Party.

No one minds being called Democrats. The website name is www.democrats.org.

BTW, the website for the Republican Party is www.gop.org. Does it bother you that Republicans are called the GOP?
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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We're continually told by some people in this forum - usually the right wingers - that the US isn't a democracy, but a republic.

So why the objection to democrats being called the democratic party? Why is there a need for republicans to claim something they don't think applies to the US?
OMG, talk about confusion.
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Um, OK.

Doesn't change the fact that the legal, official name of the party in question is The Democratic Party.

No one minds being called Democrats. The website name is www.democrats.org.

BTW, the website for the Republican Party is www.gop.org. Does it bother you that Republicans are called the GOP?
GOP Grand Old Party. It is a moniker for the party. I just call them the RepubliCAN'Ts, because they just CAN'T seem to do anything. It is all talk and very little action from them.
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Republicans have a democratic process to elect the people that represent their party.
Are they also the Democratic Party based upon actions taken in the democratic process?????


What is up with this altering the meaning of language?
I hear and read all the time when referring to the Democrat Party, The person speaking or writing, refers to them as the Democratic Party.


Is the intent to confuse the ignorant?
Or is the person speaking ignorant?
The official name of the political party is The Democratic Party. It was organized under that name officially, and that's what will appear on any or all official documents, including our ballots, how the members are called in our government, and everything else.

The name could have been 'The Democrat's Party" or "The Democratic Republican Party" or some other name. When the party, the oldest in our system, re-organized after the Civil War, it changed names. Earlier, the same party had different names, but the word "democratic" was in all of them.

By a fluke of language, a member of the party is called a Democrat. But the word indicates that's a single member. As a group, they are all Democratic, as that's their party's name.

A member of the Republican party cannot be called a Republic singularly, as Republic has a different meaning in our language. So The Republican Party is used for both the party's name and it's members, jointly or individually. Another language fluke.

So when someone calls the Democratic Party the Democrat Party, they're showing an ignorance of our language.
That's all any name altering amounts to.

If the entire party consisted of only one person, then it would be The Democrat Party. Or properly, The Democrat's Party. But since there is more than one person in it, the only proper use of the word Democrat is when describing a single member.

Any other use is as stupid as calling a single Republican a Republic.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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There is no difference between the two teams.

They rape, rob, and kill with impunity.

And over 99% of the population approve of the agenda.
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