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Old 12-04-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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New rigorous study published in the Geophysical Research Letters show that the climate models do work and they've been working since 1970:


https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1202271427807678464

This pretty much debunks and destroys the climate denier shibboleth that the climate models don't match actual observations. The above study, released today, showed that most models did a good job of forecasting the observed warming.

More: Even 50-year-old climate models correctly predicted global warming
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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And yet there was a time in the 70s when they were proposing a coming ice age.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:50 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Well it's good that the models have proven reasonably accurate. That will provide some confidence moving forward.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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You’re grouping all climate deniers into one group. Many might believe man made warming a little, but aren’t convinced it will cause Armageddon, don’t believe were a large enough cause to destroy our economy to fix it, don’t believe it’s possible/practical to make large enough changes to fix it, think the earth has natural warming and cooling cycles regardless, etc.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:54 PM
 
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And yet there was a time in the 70s when they were proposing a coming ice age.
A tipping point hasn't been ruled out. There's a lot more research to be done.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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First thing to fix problem, substantially curb immigration.

If that isn't done, you're doomed.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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And yet there was a time in the 70s when they were proposing a coming ice age.
Debunked. The media, including Time magazine, ran with and created that fad.

"A survey of peer reviewed scientific papers from 1965 to 1979 show that few papers predicted global cooling (7 in total). Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming..." (source)
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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First thing to fix problem, substantially curb immigration.
If that isn't done, you're doomed.
I don't quite understand your point... are you saying immigrants emit more CO2 than natural born US citizens? Wouldn't it be the opposite? If we allowed a million immigrants from dirty China or dirty India to come to a green state like California, wouldn't they have a smaller carbon footprint here than when they were in the home country?
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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New rigorous study published in the Geophysical Research Letters show that the climate models do work and they've been working since 1970:


https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1202271427807678464

This pretty much debunks and destroys the climate denier shibboleth that the climate models don't match actual observations. The above study, released today, showed that most models did a good job of forecasting the observed warming.

More: Even 50-year-old climate models correctly predicted global warming
OMG! REALLY?

Please tell us how your air is dirtier than it was in the 60s.

Youth is wasted on the young.


GO HAVE SOME FUN!!! GO OUTSIDE!!!








There are too many who have lived through the "smog decades" who know it's BS!
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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OMG! REALLY?

Please tell us how your air is dirtier than it was in the 60s.

Youth is wasted on the young.


GO HAVE SOME FUN!!! GO OUTSIDE!!!








There are too many who have lived through the "smog decades" who know it's BS!
I'd also like to know about the projections after 2001

We're almost 20 years removed from 2001, so to leave our projections for that period while touting the supposed accuracy of a formula/forecast is very suspect.
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