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Old 12-08-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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Fact witnesses and Trump's release of his phone summary's have shown Trump abused his oath, abused his office, solicited a bribe and obstructed Congress.
This will be factually inaccurate no matter how many times you say it. I'm not sure why you think you can convince people with obvious lies....but it's unlikely to work.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:18 PM
 
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Wrong on all points.
I'm absolutely not, I get that the truth conflicts with the talking points you've been told to parrot, but that's not my fault.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Congress can ONLY do what the US Constitution allows. They only have ONE power over the President. No other.
Power of the purse. The power to control and distribute every dollar that comes into the treasury. No other branch has that power.
Trump can only divert money already approved for other purposes to his own agenda by invoking phony emergencies.

If we're doing so good as Trump says, why do we have so many emergencies that need money to save us?

Remember, Power of the purse,Power of the purse Power of the purse when you talk coequal branches of government and whose got it.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The houses limited power has been given to the president by he constitution. By the same token, the congress has been given power that the president has not been given.

Co-equal branches and all the constitutional wording?

The are not required to give due process during congressional investigations as it is an investigation to decide whether to bring the matter to trial. Do you actually think that the FBI brings in the suspect to cross examine a witness they are interviewing to determine charges? Not different in a congressional investigation. They used the Republican criteria for impeachment against Trump to conduct the hearing.

Nobody has taken away Trump's constitutional rights.

The Senate is where the trial begins and he will have all the protections and safeguards the constitution avails for him and his battery of lawyers will use every bit of it.

Plus he'll own the stage throughout the proceedings. The apprentice all over again. Prime time, baby!
Who is Trumps accuser? You know the person that used the Whistlerblower status after speaking with Schiff on how to proceed with the third hand hearsay which was completely false . Schiff lied that he did not know the so called Fake Whistleblower with nothing credible as usual.... A big scam from the beginning.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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This will be factually inaccurate no matter how many times you say it. I'm not sure why you think you can convince people with obvious lies....but it's unlikely to work.
It is the way it is.

No lies, no fallacies. Tomorrow the first of the Articles of impeachment to come out.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No it's an impeachment. Fact witnesses and Trump's release of his phone summary's have shown Trump abused his oath, abused his office, solicited a bribe and obstructed Congress. Trump given the opportunity to have attorney's present to question. His Attorney's have declined.

The Senate runs the trial.

Trump can only blame himself.
You have all those accusations, with no proof.. NONE.. is that the same talking points over there at Contrived News Network? Just saying it doesn't make it so... they are telling you fairy tale propaganda .
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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It is the way it is.

No lies, no fallacies. Tomorrow the first of the Articles of impeachment to come out.
Sure, probably....but that's not a good thing for Democrats, you have to realize that. Pushing forward just makes it all but a guarantee that Trump is re-elected and the Republicans take the House back.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It is the way it is.

No lies, no fallacies. Tomorrow the first of the Articles of impeachment to come out.
yes,, obstruction of justice to the democrats is Trump tweeting it is a Witch Hunt.. this is how nuts the lefties are ..
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Who is Trumps accuser? You know the person that used the Whistlerblower status after speaking with Schiff on how to proceed with the third hand hearsay which was completely false . Schiff lied that he did not know the so called Fake Whistleblower with nothing credible as usual.... A big scam from the beginning.
Give me a break. Let's say an individual walks into a local police station and say's there's crack house on the corner and it's really bad. So the cops raid the crack house and find out everything the witness said is true. Do you think that person is obligated to do anything else? A crime is a crime is a crime. It doesn't matter who reported it if it's true. The witness has no other exposure after reporting the violation.

Your stance seems to be an effort to cling to desperate arguments that have no rational basis on the obvious facts. There is no reason for the witness to appear when the statements made were all found to be true and credible.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Give me a break. Let's say an individual walks into a local police station and say's there's crack house on the corner and it's really bad. So the cops raid the crack house and find out everything the witness said is true. Do you think that person is obligated to do anything else? A crime is a crime is a crime. It doesn't matter who reported it if it's true. The witness has no other exposure after reporting the violation.

Your stance seems to be an effort to cling to desperate arguments that have no rational basis on the obvious facts. There is no reason for the witness to appear when the statements made were all found to be true and credible.
The GOP stance.

" See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil."
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