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Old 12-14-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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Comey: “Sure Chris, mistakes were made in the FISA process and subsequent (illegal) investigations, but as a former Boy Scout I can assure you they were honest mistakes, with only the best of intentions...now about my new book...”
Honest mistakes... is lying under oath an honest mistake?

Maybe he was a former boy scout because he lied and they put him out.

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status...58137263427584
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Old 12-14-2019, 06:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't see any indication that they went back in time and retrieved phone records from years ago, I know the NSA has access which Trump just approved again by the way. If Page left the campaign in October 2016 just before the warrant was approved how does this amount to spying on the Trump campaign. Page had no part in the Trump White House or campaign on through the next 3 warrants so what does this have to do with Trump. I'm not making a case that there isn't a problem with the warrants.
The 3 hop rule.....


Regardless when the warrant is finally issued. They have full access to all his communications stored in the NSA Database.
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The 3 hop rule.....


Regardless when the warrant is finally issued. They have full access to all his communications stored in the NSA Database.
Link?
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Honest mistakes... is lying under oath an honest mistake?

Maybe he was a former boy scout because he lied and they put him out.

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status...58137263427584
Wiring up a CHS to infiltrate the Trump campaign and record conversations, and also looking thru emails, is surveillance. That's what a FISA warrant is for, surveillance of US citizens.

As soon as Comey and his pals got their hands on a FISA warrant for anyone who was in the Trump campaign, they can immediately gain access to the past couple years worth of their lives, and the people they associated with. Which, in the case of Page and Popadopolous means - the Trump campaign
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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Link?
Read up on it yourself.

FISA Judges Collyer and Boasberg Both Identified NSA Databases Used for Political Surveillance

A Declassified Court Ruling Shows How the FBI Abused NSA Mass Surveillance Data
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/statu...44953948528640


The 3 hop rule... You said you knew what that was. why are you here debating like a scholar and you don't even know the basics. Google it yourself. 3 hop rule, Carter page.
There, copy and paste it into a google search
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:33 AM
 
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Honest mistakes... is lying under oath an honest mistake?

Maybe he was a former boy scout because he lied and they put him out.

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status...58137263427584
Team Trump? Known liars and corrupt people? Guess it takes a liar to know a liar. Since we have the pathological liar in chief blabbing and twittering all the time.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:42 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Not a crime? Ask the former IL Gov., Rod Blagojevich about his corruption charges, He is currently serving time.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Bl...uption_charges
Correct. "Quid pro quo" simply means something for something, or this for that. It's a transaction, essentially. Are all transactions illegal by nature? No.

As I said, it depends on the motivation and mechanism of the desired transaction, in this scenario (Trump/Ukraine).
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Interviewed by Chris Wallace. Please. Why won't he go on Maria Bartiromo? She offered.
Ask him. AMO, Maria Bartiromo is second rate to Chris Wallace.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Correct. "Quid pro quo" simply means something for something, or this for that. It's a transaction, essentially. Are all transactions illegal by nature? No.

As I said, it depends on the motivation and mechanism of the desired transaction, in this scenario (Trump/Ukraine).
It is essentially, Bartering.


The question remains, is it for the benefit of the nation as a whole, or are you filling your personal bank account.


Trump is the ONLY politician in my lifetime, that has lost wealth while holding office.
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