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Old 12-10-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I do believe in modesty. But I have 3 grown grandkids and tat sleeves. Blue hair and a nose ring is their life styles. It’s not mine, but I accept them as who they are. I broke the rules in my generation all the time - because I had to be me. I wore pants - my dad screamed for a week! I wore red lipstic omg - the heavy eye shawdow is coming back. Lol. let people be -these are trends -
If that poster was around when Elvis shook his hips on Ed Sullivan he would have had a heart attack.

Then he would have labeled The King a "gangster".
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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I do believe in modesty. But I have 3 grown grandkids and tat sleeves. Blue hair and a nose ring is their life styles. It’s not mine, but I accept them as who they are. I broke the rules in my generation all the time - because I had to be me. I wore pants - my dad screamed for a week! I wore red lipstic omg - the heavy eye shawdow is coming back. Lol. let people be -these are trends -
Sleeve tats are permanent, more than a trend like clothes or makeup. Their choices can affect their lives later on.

I'm surprised how much 70s punk has influenced culture now - piercings and hair colors. Yeah boomers did it first.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:56 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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If that poster was around when Elvis shook his hips on Ed Sullivan he would have had a heart attack.

Then he would have labeled The King a "gangster".
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I told you Karl, any regulation/law/State is oppressive to me. I don't do "degrees" of oppression. If did I would be a statist libertarian or minarchist.

Santa Monica pretty much has perfect weather for me. I can't swim any where north of Ventura because that water is too cold. Though I suppose you could force a wet suit on me, provided it wasn't gangsta apparel, and that would suffice.

San Diego's water temp is better. They don't have the mountains down there though like up here. Air temp can get a bit warmer in SD as well which isn't to my liking.

Why am I explaining all this to you again?
Your cognitive dissonance is quite remarkable.

I would be fine if you said you like Santa Monica and left it at that. You would also inadvertently prove my point about external society affecting the individual.

You insist you don't (nor should anyone else) and you stay their for the nature and scenery. I find it ironic that the most stifling metropolitan area is the only place in the world that matches you scenic/temperature standards.

And its not just about tax rate, its about population organization. Given the amount of order necessary to a region of 10+ million people, and the traffic laws, zoning rules, and consumer practices I thought you would have a problem living in such a place.

But maybe then individual freedom isn't something you rank in terms of high importance, but rather individual comfort; which is fine but then would go back to my statement: Society affects all individuals, we don't live on separate islands where things external to us have no affect.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I do believe in modesty. But I have 3 grown grandkids and tat sleeves. Blue hair and a nose ring is their life styles. It’s not mine, but I accept them as who they are. I broke the rules in my generation all the time - because I had to be me. I wore pants - my dad screamed for a week! I wore red lipstic omg - the heavy eye shawdow is coming back. Lol. let people be -these are trends -
Oh its not even about being overtly modest. I don't want to live in a society where women cover their whole bodies and men walk around in perfectly sleeved shirts with a tie.

I'm against bodily distortion that goes against our natural body figure like piercing skin, tattoos, etc.

And they are symptoms of larger problem caused by market monopoly on our social culture.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:02 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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Oh its not even about being overtly modest. I don't want to live in a society where women cover their whole bodies and men walk around in perfectly sleeved shirts with a tie.

I'm against bodily distortion that goes against our natural body figure like piercing skin, tattoos, etc.

And they are symptoms of larger problem caused by market monopoly on our social culture.
That's what they said about Cher showing her belly button on t.v. then too.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:08 PM
 
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Tattoos, nose piercings, body distortions, makeup, chemical induced hair, along with tech gadgets like airpods.

This the performative thug life of middle class young people, not actual gangs.
You described punk rockers.. but I know the line is being blurred with that and hiphop.


Classic thug life is baggy pants that sag or baggy shorts. Along with Bike Cortez and Timberland boots.
Depending on where your from.

And airpods thug life? AIRPODS? Oh man if Tupac was alive he’d facepalm til his forehead dented..
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That's what they said about Cher showing her belly button on t.v. then too.
Yeah, have you seen the freak culture gaining steam? These people are unhealthy, ugly, and they're destroying their own body for social conformity.

That is the difference.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You described punk rockers.. but I know the line is being blurred with that and hiphop.


Classic thug life is baggy pants that sag or baggy shorts. Along with Bike Cortez and Timberland boots.
Depending on where your from.

And airpods thug life? AIRPODS? Oh man if Tupac was alive he’d facepalm til his forehead was dented..
That is one factor.

The point is as a character trait it shows thuggish aesthetics are spreading to upper middle class kids with money.

It shows a cultural homogenization across class and racial lines by way of market monopoly by entertainment producers and other corporate providers.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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SHAME? Why?
Rebelling against the status quo (insanity) is just another plea for sanity. It just won't work.

We know certain self evident truths - like all men have Creator endowed rights and all men are created equal (before the law - none higher) - yet we observe injustice and tyranny.

Those of the 1960s, were especially appalled at being compelled into military service to fight in Viet Nam.

But nothing can compare to the realization that America went bust in 1933, and capitulated to foreign forces - financial powers - who mismanaged America to the point of imminent collapse. Those politicians, lawyers, and their allies who collaborated are the shameless ones who deliberately destroyed the constitutional government and replaced it with a gang of sniveling poltroons who endlessly argue over who to "tax" and who to "bribe" while acting as trustees in bankruptcy for the Creditor.
This may well be the last generation who will have access to the republican form of government (as guaranteed by Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON). Ironically, not 1 in 100,000 Americans can accurately define it, its source and origin. Most think it is synonymous with a republic (it's not) or it's a "constitutional republic" (nope - it existed BEFORE the USCON).

Hint: It's the one in which all men have endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure. And that EVERY STATE constitution repeats that self evident truth. Thus establishing the fact that the Declaration of Independence is the foundation of all law in the united States of America. And that is what is teetering on the edge of the precipice.

Since 1776, no other nation on Earth declared that the people have rights that governments were instituted to secure and do nothing more without consent of the governed. That established the astounding situation that the PEOPLE were sovereigns (equals - none higher than sovereign!), and government was their servant - not their master. In all other nations, government is superior to the individual, and needs no consent to rule.

If that America can be restored, where the majority of people have withdrawn consent to be governed, and recovered their endowment, that would change everything. Since endowed rights cannot be taxed, regulated or trespassed, all government revenues would tank, as would the number of subjects to rule. No matter who was elected, with a budget reduced by 97% (or more) there's little mischief they can get into - nor would their fellows allow it - since only they would be paying the bills. Let the 3% play government, securing rights. But let's say good bye to permissions (licenses), "controlled substances", confiscatory taxes, socialist thievery, and perpetual bankruptcy. Let the majority enjoy sovereignty, freedom and independence, the birthright our forebears granted to us.
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