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Old 12-20-2019, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment are not unlimited. Not every restriction is unconstitutional.


Which restrictions specifically does the language of the 2nd amendment allow?

There is no "except" after "shall not be infringed".
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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It's not us. We have too many outsiders bringing in their Liberal mindset overwhelming big cities especially in Northern Virginia. A problem just not unique to Virginia though. Other states are experiencing the same thing.
Any day now the majority of Virginians will be suburbanites and, like Maryland, it will no longer be a southern state. I am surprised it hasn't happened yet. They are not outsiders, you are the past.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Which restrictions specifically does the language of the 2nd amendment allow?

There is no "except" after "shall not be infringed".
You'd have to ask the Supreme Court. Where I am it is against the law to carry a gun onto school property. I would be surprised if it is different where you live. You also can't carry a gun into government buildings. There are prohibitions on the possession and even ownership of firearms by felons and the mentally ill. These are all restrictions deemed allowable under the 2nd Amendment.

This isn't unique to the 2nd Amendment. Think about the 1st. We could come up with a long list of speech not protected by the 1st Amendment too.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:16 PM
 
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Again, not every restriction is unconstitutional. This has already been through the courts.
The govt asked itself "are restrictions okay?" and then responded with "sure".
Convenient, huh?


The second amendment as a protection of an inherent right is as worthless as the yellowed paper its written on.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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You'd have to ask the Supreme Court. Where I am it is against the law to carry a gun onto school property. I would be surprised if it is different where you live. You also can't carry a gun into government buildings. There are prohibitions on the possession and even ownership of firearms by felons and the mentally ill. These are all restrictions deemed allowable under the 2nd Amendment.

This isn't unique to the 2nd Amendment. Think about the 1st. We could come up with a long list of speech not protected by the 1st Amendment too.
Its all about property rights.
In a free society, yes an individual can own weapon X, but Magic Movie Theater group gets to decide acceptable limits of speech, weapon possession, attire etc. in its cinemas.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Its all about property rights.
In a free society, yes an individual can own weapon X, but Magic Movie Theater group gets to decide acceptable limits of speech, weapon possession, attire etc. in its cinemas.
Background checks.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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Background checks.
Total violation of property rights.

Rights arent subject to the criteria and subsequent permission/denial of some collective with fictitious authority.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Total violation of property rights.

Rights arent subject to the criteria and subsequent permission/denial of some collective with fictitious authority.
Again, you’d have to run that by the Supreme Court, but they’ve already ruled on that.
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Old 12-21-2019, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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You'd have to ask the Supreme Court. Where I am it is against the law to carry a gun onto school property. I would be surprised if it is different where you live. You also can't carry a gun into government buildings. There are prohibitions on the possession and even ownership of firearms by felons and the mentally ill. These are all restrictions deemed allowable under the 2nd Amendment.

This isn't unique to the 2nd Amendment. Think about the 1st. We could come up with a long list of speech not protected by the 1st Amendment too.


Really?

What words does the government bar you from saying?

"Yelling fire in a crowded theater"?

That's not a restriction on what you can say, it's a restriction on causing a panic and endangerment of others.

You can stand on your own property and yell "FIRE!!" At the top of your lungs all day.

But restrictions on certain types of arms aren't just banned in certain places.

If you can't own an "assault rifle" , you can't own or use it anywhere........even on your own property or at a gun range.

That's not even close to the same thing as not yelling fire in a theater.
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Old 12-21-2019, 06:19 AM
 
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Again, you’d have to run that by the Supreme Court, but they’ve already ruled on that.
Run what?
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