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Old 12-11-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Best solution is to propose that every man who votes on abortion being legal must pay child support to a random stranger who could not get an abortion... I mean they care about the fetus enough, I'm sure they'll care about the kid...
As long as it doesn’t involve any food stamps
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Actually, they do. The fetal homicide laws prove that.
Fetal homicide laws only prove that when it comes to terminating a pregnancy circumstances matter.

Do pro-lifers think women should be denied an abortion even when their doctors have determined carrying the pregnancy to term will probably kill them?

NO......because a post birth woman has more value and rights than a fetus.....because...... THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

There is your proof, right out of the mouths of pro-lifers.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Fetal homicide laws only prove that when it comes to terminating a pregnancy circumstances matter.
When it comes to ending a life circumstances matter. What kind of an obscene world says it's a felony to kill a fetus except for when the mother does it? Hell, why not allow infanticide as well? Mom changes her mind when she realizes how demanding caring for a newborn is? Just let her kill it.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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Best solution is to propose that every man who votes on abortion being legal must pay child support to a random stranger who could not get an abortion... I mean they care about the fetus enough, I'm sure they'll care about the kid...
Why stop it there thinking like an illogical and irresponsible social parasite? Why not pay random child support to every mother who couldn't rob a bank or make a living selling drugs?
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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When it comes to ending a life circumstances matter. What kind of an obscene world says it's a felony to kill a fetus except for when the mother does it? Hell, why not allow infanticide as well? Mom changes her mind when she realizes how demanding caring for a newborn is? Just let her kill it.
Any one can care for a newborn like a father, grandparent, friend, or a sitter, that's not the case with a fetus. As a mother does have the option to drop a newborn off at a safe location like a hospital or fire station if she feels that she can not care for that newborn.
Where are the drop off locations for a fetus that a woman feels that she can not care for?
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Why stop it there thinking like an illogical and irresponsible social parasite? Why not pay random child support to every mother who couldn't rob a bank or make a living selling drugs?
No it’s good to just leave it to those who wanna control someone’s body.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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When it comes to ending a life circumstances matter. What kind of an obscene world says it's a felony to kill a fetus except for when the mother does it? Hell, why not allow infanticide as well? Mom changes her mind when she realizes how demanding caring for a newborn is? Just let her kill it.
Because.....a fetus and an infant ARE NOT THE SAME.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Any one can care for a newborn like a father, grandparent, friend, or a sitter, that's not the case with a fetus. As a mother does have the option to drop a newborn off at a safe location like a hospital or fire station if she feels that she can not care for that newborn.
Where are the drop off locations for a fetus that a woman feels that she can not care for?
Barring legitimate life-threatening medical complications, why can't a woman care for a fetus?
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Because.....a fetus and an infant ARE NOT THE SAME.
They are BOTH protected by homicide laws. If you insist they aren't the same, drop the fetal homicide laws. Let anyone who wishes kill a fetus, including the father who does not want to be a parent.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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And, men and teenage young men should be MATURE enough to keep their pants up, zipped. buttoned, before the deed, ruins lives, sometimes forever. When are some men going to take responsibility & quit putting the blame on women????
Why should males take any responsibility when they have no rights, say or agency in the matter? Males don't actually choose their mate the female does. Males don't have any say if the woman has an abortion or not. Males don't have knowledge of a female's fertility cycle or birth control methods the female is actually using or her real intent in getting pregnant or not. It's not fair males should have to take all the responsibilities yet have no agency or rights.
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