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Old 12-11-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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I'm watching it live on MSNBC now. Or maybe you meant something different by "Dem media"?
Glad to hear it — did they show Graham’s whole opening statement? Or did they come in after his opening?
CNN wasn’t covering it, nor was NBC or NPR
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I agree. He is a straight shooter.
And he’s got a great sense of humor.

But I think he showed clearly it was more than just incompetence, it was a coordinated partisan abuse of justice
to destroy a president they hated deeply.
All those leading the investigation showed themselves to be deeply partisan, hating Trump and his supporters.
He went above and beyond in my opinion painting a portrait of collusion against Trump starting a full year before the damn election even occurred. He laid it out piece by piece in a simple tone that even an idiot can keep up with. I feel confident that some really rotten crap has occurred/is still occurring behind Dem lines.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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I agree. He is a straight shooter.
And he’s got a great sense of humor.

But I think he showed clearly it was more than just incompetence, it was a coordinated partisan abuse of justice to destroy a president they hated deeply.
All those leading the investigation showed themselves to be deeply partisan, hating Trump and his supporters.
Senator Graham ends with talking essentially about the future of the FISA Court -- either this gets "fixed" or "hawk Graham" won't support it anymore. 3 parts of the FISA have to be reauthorized by December 15, 2019. Are they going to attempt to sweep this all under the rug?

Are the American people so asleep at the wheel that they refuse to even pay attention?
I think they are. I think the Rubber Bubble these people live in simply don't allow them to see the loss of Constitutional Protections and the danger of a Surveillance State that is actively used against American Citizens for nothing more than Political Ideology and a sense of "WE are above the Law" and must save the American Voters from themselves.

Not errors, not mistakes ..... a Coup and they used FISA Courts illegally to take down a Campaign and then a sitting President.
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: DFW
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IG Horowitz: The activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched this.

https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/...03186982313989
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:46 AM
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Im really suprised that the fisa aplication didnt say "because "orange man bad" , checkmarking the bias box. Duh
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Those "sources" used "against members of a major presidential campaign" would be called "spies".


https://twitter.com/Isikoff/status/1204804540731658240
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Old 12-11-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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Horowitz is choosing his words very carefully. Investigation limited in scope and based on information available to him within FBI.
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Except none of the Dem media is covering it, so they will just get their fake news spin tonight.
Oh they’re covering it but misleading their viewers with misleading titles. Left wing media is trying very hard to downplay the FISA abuse.
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Those "sources" used "against members of a major presidential campaign" would be called "spies".


https://twitter.com/Isikoff/status/1204804540731658240
Horowitz when pressed really doesn’t want to use the word “spy” although acknowledging with Graham clarifying the semantics of “spy” that they actually were..
I think instead of using spy he used something like “surveillance sources”
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Except none of the Dem media is covering it, so they will just get their fake news spin tonight.
All during the one sided House hearings CBS kept pre-empting my morning shows, but for this one they didn't. Shame on CBS. I watch them via DVR by the way, while I did watch the hearings.
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