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Why do rich a$$holes like to kill endangered species? When I encounter one, I'm grateful for the experience and photograph the plant or animal, if possible. I don't feel the need to destroy the creature when I'm done.
No wonder people hate billionaires.
Why do "a$$holes" make such a big deal out of everything they are against?
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He HAD a legal permit. Tough!
Permit or not, what do hunters want a round of applause for going to other countries to shoot animals.
The most repugnant imho are those who post pics on social media with lions or giraffe carcasses, but that's not just my opinion indeed Governments in Europe and around the world are now also starting to take notice of these trophy hunters and their social media pictures, which are often the subject of media stories.
I suspect a lot of countries are going to ban this now, so at least the stupidity of those carcass ridden trophy social media pictures is now leading to action.
Even though Zac Goldsmith is no longer an MP, I hope this is included in the Queen's Speech, as a lasting legacy to his good work as Minister for International Wildlife and I am sure Carrie Symonds will do her best to make sure Boris Johnson takes action.
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Britain is to have the toughest trophy hunting laws in the world as the Government announced they will be tabling a ban on the "morally indefensible" act. Hunters will no longer be able to bring back endangered animal parts from Africa as part of wide-ranging legislation that will also stop the import of exotic furs and rugs.
The move, announced today by the Minister for International Wildlife Zac Goldsmith could see the lives of thousands of elephants, lions, rhinos and other endangered species saved.
There is said to have been support for this policy within Number 10, and Boris Johnson's partner Carrie Symonds has been campaigning against the issue for some time. Mr Goldsmith's appointment by Boris Johnson was seen by those who oppose trophy hunting as significant, as the animal rights campaigner was effectively put in charge of the issue.
Ms Symonds said in her first speech to the public as "First Lady" earlier this year: "A trophy is meant to be a prize. Something you’re awarded if you’ve achieved something of merit that requires great skill and talent.
"Trophy hunting is not that. It is the opposite of that. It is cruel, it is sick, it is cowardly and I will never, ever understand the motivation to do it."
While some countries including France, Australia and the Netherlands have banned the imports of specific animals such as lions, this ban will affect dozens of endangered animals. The animals it will no longer be legal to import will be those on the Cites Appendix I and II lists, as well as animals on the I UCN list.
Generally culling in the UK requires qualifications such as DSC1 and DSC2 as well as permission to upgrade firearm licences in relation to deer and larger mammals which must be killed cleanly, and there is even stipulations on the power of the weapon to ensure a quick and painless clean kill.
Gamekeeping (which includes professional stalking) is often a full time career rather than a hobby or something to do for a bit of fun, and no gamekeeper would ever wish to post selfies with dead animals on social media. Clay pigeon shooting and target practice at numerous ranges throughout the country including Bisley is generally seen as the fun side of shooting.
Smaller pests/vermin such as rabbits, crows, foxes, rats etc etc are shot by farmers and gamekeepers. For general firearms the usual is a shotgun or .22 rimfire long rifle, although large mammals require you meet different weapon specificaions, as laid down by law. Whilst in terms of handguns, they are restricted for use in dispatch of large animaks that has not been killed cleanly, and again you need specialist permission.
Whilst there are strict rules and guidelines regarding seasonal shooting and even the power of weapons, indeed ownership of semi-automatic centre-fire rifles is banned in the UK whilst shotguns are restricted a capacity of more than three cartridges (in magazine plus the breech). You also have to apply to the police foe either a shotgun or a firearms licence and must seek permission to upgrade the licence and power of the weapon in relation to deer and large mammal hunting.
We don't just let anyone go out shooting across the countryside with powerful weapons.
Here in the US its called a hunting license.
And Gamekeepers are called game wardens.
The rules and job description sound the same as here in the US.
Gamekeepers tend to work on private estates and there are several variations in gamekeeping:
*Stalkers: keepers who specialise in the stealthy pursuit of deer, mainly in the uplands of Scotland.
*Lowland keepers: rearing pheasant and partridge and managing lowland habitats.
* Upland keepers: managing moorland for grouse in upland areas.
* Gillie/river keepers: keepers who manage rivers such as the River Spey for trout and salmon.
There are also conservation officers on public land and UK National Parks gowever their role is slightly different.
Gamekeepers are generally full time professionals and cull herds, manage game on shooting estates and rivers, as well as stopping illegal poaching.
From what I have read it is very similar to hunting in the US.
Deer stalking = dear hunting
Gamekeeper =Game warden: except gamekeepers are private and game warden is government. Their duties are very similar except they must have the same license and follow the same rules as other hunters.
I'm sure the deer stalkers and deer hunters hunt for fun as well as meat and trophy.
It sort of gives you an understanding of how wealthy people think. I can have anything that I want. I can do anything that I want. The father thinks the same way. I wonder if they are teaching Baron how to regard the plebians.
We have a billionaire President and two billionaires running on the Democratic side. We can't afford to have someone who has no idea of our needs and of those things that could make us homeless.
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From what I have read it is very similar to hunting in the US.
Deer stalking = dear hunting
Gamekeeper =Game warden: except gamekeepers are private and game warden is government. Their duties are very similar except they must have the same license and follow the same rules as other hunters.
I'm sure the deer stalkers and deer hunters hunt for fun as well as meat and trophy.
Gamekeepers are full time and include professional stalkers.
In terms of deer you have to apply for a special licence.
In terms of firearms licences -there are two basic types, a shotgun licence which is easier to get and a firearms licence which is far harder to get and involves a lot of more checks.
A firearm licence will allow you to have a bog standard .22 rimfire, however to gunt deer and large mammals you need to get your firearns licences upgraded in oreder to operate more powerful rifles, and it's usually down tothe police and professional associations, and it's generally expected that you wll have undergone deer stalking courses such as DSC1 (Deer Staking Certificate 1) and possible the ,ore advanced DSC2 (Deer Stalking Certificate 2) which you will have to pay forem as well and have a good deal of experience.
You can just pick up a gun and go out and shoot deer or large mammals.
Generally culling in the UK requires qualifications such as DSC1 and DSC2 as well as permission to upgrade firearm licences in relation to deer and larger mammals which must be killed cleanly, and there is even stipulations on the power of the weapon to ensure a quick and painless clean kill.
Gamekeeping (which includes professional stalking) is often a full time career rather than a hobby or something to do for a bit of fun, and no gamekeeper would ever wish to post selfies with dead animals on social media. Clay pigeon shooting and target practice at numerous ranges throughout the country including Bisley is generally seen as the fun side of shooting.
Smaller pests/vermin such as rabbits, crows, foxes, rats etc etc are shot by farmers and gamekeepers. For general firearms the usual is a shotgun or .22 rimfire long rifle, although large mammals require you meet different weapon specificaions, as laid down by law. Whilst in terms of handguns, they are restricted for use in dispatch of large animaks that has not been killed cleanly, and again you need specialist permission.
Whilst there are strict rules and guidelines regarding seasonal shooting and even the power of weapons, indeed ownership of semi-automatic centre-fire rifles is banned in the UK whilst shotguns are restricted a capacity of more than three cartridges (in magazine plus the breech). You also have to apply to the police foe either a shotgun or a firearms licence and must seek permission to upgrade the licence and power of the weapon in relation to deer and large mammal hunting.
We don't just let anyone go out shooting across the countryside with powerful weapons.
Sounds like you are treated as a commoner that has to ask/pay for permission to own something that is a right.
So junior killed a sheep, this from the same people who ignore Hillary and Bhengazi.........
The 9 Benghazi commissions attempting to get Hillary Clinton ended up proving nothing. What a waste of Millions and Millions of $$'s. As usual that pointy headed senator leading the fight looked like a fool.
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