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This doesn't even make sense. Virginia was a Confederate state and would NOT have had black men on horses, fighting for the South. (And I doubt they had dreadlocks at the time.) Is the "rumor" supposed to be that Virginia let their slaves join the army and fight against slavery?
to create their socialist utopia, they first have to tear down and remove our history then replace it with their made up false history and lies. Total virtue signaling crap.
Post War Germany!
Or even post war Poland (they are trying hard to clean up some of their image).
Or Post-War Russia!
I suspect civilized Virginians are tired of being thought of as Slaveholders or Rebels. After all, this is the State of Madison and Jefferson and a much higher level of things.
I know it offends States/Slaves Rights types - because they have been complaining lately about tours of Monitcello and of Plantations. How DARE their nice tours be ruined...ruined, I tell you....by showing the Slave Quarters and describing what went on there?
Those shacks should be torn down and that "peculiar" institution never spoke of again...after all, it might be a teachable moment and we wouldn't want those nice folks who drove from their Gated Community in the big honking SUV to have their day ruined by a picture of someone hanging or hurting from the whip.
What some enterprising Virginian needs to do is build a private theme park that only presents the good stuff - from a righteous White Christian POV. We may be able to hire Michelle Bachman to help design it as she claims this was the natural order and that Slaves loved their captivity.
As to this statue, I am sure all those miscreants who broke the law and desecrated/destroyed the statues of actual people will be ok with others tearing down this new statue, right?
If not, then why not?
I am still waiting to hear how the statue of Harvey Milk (who was a known pedophile) in San Francisco is eventually destroyed, and if all sorts of people on the left will be cheering.
If not, then why not?
Many Virginians find this piece of art inspiring and uplifting. Folks are very proud of it, especially the citizens of Richmond.
Fair enough. It's their town. Personally I dont see what's so inspiring but "personally" is the operative word there ain't it. I just dont see what's so "inspiring and uplifting" in a statue that portrays what I see as a fictional representation.
Remember what I said about grabbing whatever point on the saddle is convenient for a lifeline preceding an undignified dismount? Note he is in fact grabbing for the cantle which is also in fact the only thing g to grab for with an English saddle.
Which is the type of tack portrayed. These are the types of details that someone like myself would notice. Not some ethereal societal meaning. The portrayal of the horse I like just fine but his rider (I'm assuming it must be a stallion...man card points ya know) is a complete contradiction.
Theres just all sorts of stuff wrong with that and being g who I am I cant overlook that stuff. One biggy is hes wearing basketball shoes. And you dont ride in basketball shoes. You might do it...once. Most people wouldn't be in a hurry to repeat the experience.
Alright I get it. Theres "deeper meaning" here. But I still think the artist could have done way better. But I don't have to look at it in my town square. I hope Richmond gets centuries of inspiration from it. More power to them.
1) Paid with Private Money
2) Did not displace or require the movement of another statue
I'm not sure why people are complaining about the statue. If someone is upset about Confederate statues then I do have a question? How long is America obligated to keep statues of traitors in place across the South? I don't see many British or Canadian statues up commemorating the Revolutionary war or the war of 1812.
The South did a good job of re-writing history post the Civil war but we have moved way past those times. The divisions between the North and South matter much less than other divisions these days (Coastal vs interior of country or Rural vs City). The ole South shall rise again falls on deaf ears these days.
You are clearly missing the point by a wide margin. Some of those traitors were once revered American citizens who were actual historical figures.
Apparently this statue is not of an actual person, rather some interpretation of a leftist artist or the like.
Heck the "Rocky" statue was moved in Philly because it represented a fictional character, yet still had nothing to do with politics.
So what basis is it ok to place what is presumably interpreted as a black empowerment statue, to replace real life people (good or evil depending on your ideological lens)?
As to your question, America is not "obligated" to keep any statues for any particular period of time. If such statues are considered passe, then move them to a less prominent location, but don't destroy them.
Those who destory art or burn books are no better than the Nazi's or Taliban. Yet to hear those kooky SJW's of Antifa, they are being righteous using the same tactics.
More importantly, look no further than the SCOTUS buildings architecture. Many a historical figure is craved there, yet no one is clamoring to have it removed, at least no sane person.
So even if the leftists (who love to tear down traditions) want for example the Roman centurion removed, what basis would they have to do so?
Certainly not time, as the Romans existed a long time before America was even a country.
Shrug. Blacks are the largest component of the city. let them have their statue of a black man. I would have chosen George Washington Carver or other great person, but their city, their choice.
Do you honestly think the majority of citizens there wanted such a statue?
They like most people who live in metropolitan cities are busy working, living, and raising a family. So just like other cities who have wacko artists construct "art" to be displayed, few if any had a hand in deciding what should be created/displayed.
I guess the only part I agree with is that if the majority of people wanted to see a black person depicted in a prominently displayed statue, why not pick a real, iconic figure like MLK, Fredrick Douglas, or the like.
Do you honestly think the majority of citizens there wanted such a statue?
They like most people who live in metropolitan cities are busy working, living, and raising a family. So just like other cities who have wacko artists construct "art" to be displayed, few if any had a hand in deciding what should be created/displayed.
I guess the only part I agree with is that if the majority of people wanted to see a black person depicted in a prominently displayed statue, why not pick a real, iconic figure like MLK, Fredrick Douglas, or the like.
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This "artist" if he wanted to portray a Black man on a horse could have done one Particular Black man I think had been unjustly ignored. Bass Reeves.
A former slave who truly broke down barriers of discrimination and kicked azz doing it. He was a federal Marshal in what is now OK and AR and was then called the Indian Territory.
His reputation was if he drew someone's warrant that someone was in deep s#!+. But what is reputation? Is gossip is people talking. Bass got it done. His reputation was solid and proven.
And an image of him would fit on that horse. SR 71 flight ceiling above an image of a guy who would go by a name chosen for street cred with the Crps or Bloods.
Bass Reeves overcame obstacles of discrimination and racism that were plumb over the top. A d came out on top. Now I could find an image of him inspiring and uplifting.
This "artist" if he wanted to portray a Black man on a horse could have done one Particular Black man I think had been unjustly ignored. Bass Reeves.
A former slave who truly broke down barriers of discrimination and kicked azz doing it. He was a federal Marshal in what is now OK and AR and was then called the Indian Territory.
His reputation was if he drew someone's warrant that someone was in deep s#!+. But what is reputation? Is gossip is people talking. Bass got it done. His reputation was solid and proven.
And an image of him would fit on that horse. SR 71 flight ceiling above an image of a guy who would go by a name chosen for street cred with the Crps or Bloods.
Bass Reeves overcame obstacles of discrimination and racism that were plumb over the top. A d came out on top. Now I could find an image of him inspiring and uplifting.
Yeah well, Bass Reeves would’ve certainly loved to have smelled his roses while he was alive, don’t cha think?
Now everyone is arriving with the bouquets now that he’s dead in his grave. SMH
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