Britain Votes - Conservative Blow Out - Boris Johnson YUGE Wins. BREXIT WILL HAPPEN (speech, invasion)
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Still trying to figure out why some Americans are cheering for Brexit. What’s it to us regardless?
There is a connection between the UK and the USA. Their governmental and legal institutions are the very foundation of ours. We speak the same language. We largely have the same cultural heritage. Concepts such as freedom of speech are very British. We just happen to have done it better than them. The concept of the government being accountable to the people is a deeply British ideology that we inherited directly from them. The Anglosphere tends to be vastly more free and prosperous and vastly less corrupt than those who were ruled by the Spanish, French, Portuguese, Belians, Netherlands, Germans, Russians, Italians, etc. They were the first nation in the modern world to abolish slavery. We eventually got around to following their lead. Our own industrial revolution is heavily copied and borrowed from theirs. The American flavor of Judeo-Christian values is much more similar to theirs than any other European nation.
There's a ton of reasons to feel a certain kinship with the UK. The British people voted to leave a giant post-national government/empire/thing. We didn't help. We didn't launch some invasion of liberation. The USA didn't take sides on the matter really. But I for one am happy that after four long years, the democratic voice of the United Kingdom has finally been realized. I would feel much the same about any other nation on earth, but more so for the UK.
Do you believe that we shouldn't give a crap about the UK?
I wanna know why are you giddy over Brexit as an American when half the UK isn’t even for Brexit and even the Brexiteers are unsure of what happens next? Because you DEFINITELY don’t know what the future holds for Britain in a post Brexit world. So what’s with the enthusiasm? It doesn’t change a single thing for the United States.
Dear we know why you asked the fallacious question. Ad hominem for something you don't like.
Too many Brexit threads. For those who didn't see it. Loony Left lied about crowd size (where have we heard that before?) saying only 1000 people showed up.
Too many Brexit threads. For those who didn't see it. Loony Left lied about crowd size (where have we heard that before?) saying only 1000 people showed up.
Evidence please?
The BBC at the time reported up to 20,000 (as it was a ticketed event, and that was the maximum number of tickets allocated).
A weakened UK and EU is very much in the US interest, in the game of geopolitics.
How so? A more free world is in everyone's best interest. The EU is an over controlling, bureaucratic MESS. I think they believe they are the new Soviet Union. But, many in England are just fine with Communism.
How so? A more free world is in everyone's best interest. The EU is an over controlling, bureaucratic MESS. I think they believe they are the new Soviet Union.
Because the US will be able to exert more influcence over the EU to benefit US interests. At the moment that power balance is fairly equal economically. Also, the EU is not socialist or communist, it is neoliberal (like the beloved Reagan and Thatcher).
The UK will be the weaker party when negotiating with the US or EU.
There is a connection between the UK and the USA. Their governmental and legal institutions are the very foundation of ours. We speak the same language. We largely have the same cultural heritage. Concepts such as freedom of speech are very British. We just happen to have done it better than them. The concept of the government being accountable to the people is a deeply British ideology that we inherited directly from them. The Anglosphere tends to be vastly more free and prosperous and vastly less corrupt than those who were ruled by the Spanish, French, Portuguese, Belians, Netherlands, Germans, Russians, Italians, etc. They were the first nation in the modern world to abolish slavery. We eventually got around to following their lead. Our own industrial revolution is heavily copied and borrowed from theirs. The American flavor of Judeo-Christian values is much more similar to theirs than any other European nation.
There's a ton of reasons to feel a certain kinship with the UK. The British people voted to leave a giant post-national government/empire/thing. We didn't help. We didn't launch some invasion of liberation. The USA didn't take sides on the matter really. But I for one am happy that after four long years, the democratic voice of the United Kingdom has finally been realized. I would feel much the same about any other nation on earth, but more so for the UK.
Do you believe that we shouldn't give a crap about the UK?
You need to read up on history around the American Revolutionary War.
The UK governmental and legal institutions are not the "very foundations of ours." What nonsense.
When the Declaration of Independence was signed and the Constitution was written, England was ruled by King George. The whole business of the separation of powers and the responsibility resting with Congress to impeach a President was because the Founders wanted no part of a monarchy ruling this new republic.
As to our sharing our Judeo-Christian values, good Lord. Founders wanted no part of a government-mandated religion. That was clear in the Constitution. Freedom of worship, along with free speech and free press are not something we inherited from England.
Where are you getting this nonsense?
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The UK will be the weaker party when negotiating with the US or EU.
The UK will be the weaker party when negotiating with quite a few nations.
In terms of GDP, the UK ranks below US, EU, China, Japan, and India at this point.
Ahead of Canada, Australia and Russia, but don't see them bending a knee to UK either. Could be wrong.
The major factor is that everyone know UK needs those trade deals more than other nations do.
Also, not in UK's favor is that their economy has virtually ground to a halt and snarled supply chains and trade barriers that will make UK's products and services more costly won't help matters.
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