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View Poll Results: Are you now considering to change your support away from Democrats because of the impeachment?
Yes 55 32.93%
No 109 65.27%
Maybe 3 1.80%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-13-2019, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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No. Separation of church and state is the only issue I care about.
Lets say you could vote for the Pope or Mao Tse Tung, which would it be?
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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But the question was about the impeachment process. I am a little fed up with the whole damn process. I don't understand why the Democrats went vague with the Articles instead of just saying bribery or extortion or whatever they decided to call it. I am fighting mad that Moscow Mitch has already come out and say no Republicans will vote to remove him from office. I am mad that Lindsey Graham from my state was all gungho for impeaching Clinton but has his nose so far up Trump's rear that he can't see straight now. I was under the impression that he had a soul at one point. I am bored with how long it is taking. The Democrats were in my mind proving their case when folks like Ms. Hill were testifying and I had hoped Mr. Bolton would surprise everyone and testify too. Now it's bogged down in the vote. I knew it was bad when the committee started questioning their own lawyers during the hearings. In my mind, the Democrats made it to the red zone, then decided they had such a good offense that they put the ball back on the other 20 just to prove how good they were.

I'm upset with everyone in Washington, but more upset at the crooked SOB sitting on his golden thrown tweeting all the time. He is the problem.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The Democrats did what needed to be done. They understand that he won't be convicted and thrown out of office. Somebody had to do something and his fellow Republicans have been enabling a traitor. At least when he loses in 2020 he can be convicted of other crimes he wasn't impeached on.
Wow, you are living in a dreamworld. Look at the results of this topic threads poll. 1/3rd of Dems are having 2nd thoughts about voting for Dems! Recent polling shows Independents trending more favorably towards the Republican party. They are rejecting Socialism, which is what the Dems are selling.

Trumps base is more energized and behind him than ever before. Rally after rally sold out Thousands outside who couldn't get in.

The Dem candidates are the weakest bunch in history, and even the big Dem donors are aksing "is this the best we've got" Dem fundraising is in a shambles.

The Dems have not been governing for the past 3 years. They have lost the American voters trust over Obamacare lies & failures, Russia-gate, Kavanaugh hearings, and now the fake impeachment infomercial.

You are living in some alternate universe that will collapse upon you in November 2020.

Are you FOR Socialism? Please answer yes or no, and be honest.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:14 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I think you are wrong. It is foolish to vote for a personality, or to not vote because of a personality. You must support the political philosophy that you believe is best for the country. It’s just like, do you want the most charming surgeon to operate on you, or the best one? Do you want a surgeon to tell you you only need a bandaid instead of surgery, because it will hurt less and it’s what you’d rather hear?

I wince at some of the things Trump says, but all in all I think he’s doing a good job. We always know exactly where Trump is coming from, instead of the “just tell them what they want to hear” politicians.

The government needed a dose of business acumen. I’m happy that he is shaking up the status quo, and making other countries pay their fair share. That alone would make me vote for him again.

You are trying to put words in my mouth. I never once said anything about personality. Your mistake is thinking there is once political philosophy. There is social and fiscal political philosophy, and a lot of issues in between. You can't take gun control, abortion, healthcare, immigration, a balance budget, defense spending, taxes on the wealthy, education, privacy, globalism, free trade, global warming, and many other issues and throw them in the same pile and say there is one political philosophy for all of these topics. This is where our great divide begins. These are all complex issues with complex solutions. There is not one conservative solution or one liberal solution for all of these issues. The problem is people want to oversimplify, they want the easy answer. I want leaders who have thought about and analyzed these issues. This takes reading and listening to experts. Trump does not have the intellectual capability to learn about issues. He is not passionate about anything but himself.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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LOL. Good one. And yes, you are correct. With witnesses who didn't witness anything. We can also add in "who were effectively ineffective".

The REO Speedwagon Impeachment: "Heard it from a friend, who, heard it from a friend, who, heard it from another …"


The left has no credibility, they started screeching impeachment right after Trump beat the coughing, cackling crook. Had the articles written, with a blank space to be filled in later. Sorry, but "he hurt our feelings" doesn't pass muster.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Dems have chosen Socialism over a Constitutional Republic. Do you choose Socialism? Do you know how many people Mao Tse Tung and Lenin massacre'd? Do you consider yourself a supporter of Castro, Maduro, Kim Jung-un? Be honest.
Dems have not chosen socialism. Just because candidates want socialized medicine doesn't make them like Castro, Maduro, Kim Jung-un. That is just fear mongering from the Republicans and you.

Castro, Maduro, Kim Jung-un used the promise of socialism to get power. I bet you believe Bernie wants to turn us into Venezuela? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Do you plan on using Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security in your lifetime? You really have nothing to complain about if you answer yest to that question. We already have other social programs that you probably take for granted.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Oh hell no. I won't ever vote for a Republican again. Not even for local office.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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I am more anti-Republican than I have ever been after watching their performance during the recent investigation and hearings. I usually vote Democrat on national elections but I sometimes supported Republicans in the past. Never again.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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Is anyone having second thoughts about voting for Democrats after the handling of the impeachment hearings?


Nope.

After seeing how the Democrats put together a totally fabricated sham trial, with witnesses who didn't witness anything, people who try to charge the President based solely on guesses about what he did or what he may have meant, "managers" who carefully cut out any opportunity for the President to call his own witnesses etc.....

My thoughts about voting for Democrats haven't changed a bit.
Lol, then don’t you mean yes?
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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If Democrats look down their nose at you it's because you have made Fox News a TV network governed by a billionaire family your main source of information. Fair and Balanced. Do you think that we Democrats haven't been laughing at "Fair and Balanced"?

I challenge the accuracy of the poll because there is no screen to stop Republicans from saying no just to be pricks.
Cable is overwhelming leftwing garbage and propaganda !!!
People who complain about Fox are complaining b/c they want only the leftwing views available !!! Solid groupthink is their goal !!! Its that kind of media that is consistent in communist countries and that is just what they want !!! Personally I don't mind being a prick when I'm dealing with male vaginas !!! It seems a most reasonable position !!!
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