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Old 12-15-2019, 05:14 AM
 
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Eh, I think the issue is settled. He ran without showing his tax returns and he won. Its only the left that can't seem to get over the issue.

In any event, you know the IRS regularly audits (and is currently auditing President Trump's) the tax returns of the extremely wealthy as they account for the bulk of federal tax revenues. If there was anything not on the up and up about Trump's taxes, he would have been charged with crimes years ago.

I don't get why the left is so obsessed with the president's returns.
"I don't get why the left is so obsessed with the president's returns."


They would NEVER understand them even if they did get them.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:18 AM
 
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Tax returns are routinely subpoenaed in financial investigations.

Presidential candidates do not routinely claim they "can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue ..."

Lawyers do not routinely make a legal argument that a President could not be prosecuted even if they "shoot someone on Fifth Avenue", they're just making it up.



Trump lawyer says president couldn't be prosecuted for shooting someone on Fifth Avenue

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...avenue-and-not
"Tax returns are routinely subpoenaed in financial investigations." ONLY of there is enough evidence of a crime having been committed WITH the taxes. What tax crime has trump committed?


"Presidential candidates do not routinely claim they "can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue ..."




If you believe he was being serious, you need to see a good shrink. Sarcasms is over many peoples heads!
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:20 AM
 
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Romney and Forbes didn't have a problem and neither does Steyer or Bloomberg, just Trump.

No one in their right mind believes that he is still under audit and he did clearly state back in 2015 that they would be released after the audit was completed. He didn't have an issue releasing his returns but now its a supreme court case, what changed.
"No one in their right mind believes" that leaves out all those with TDS and most other dems.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:22 AM
 
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Please see Nixon v. Fitzgerald:

"Opinion. In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the President is entitled to absolute immunity from liability for civil damages based on his official acts. The court emphasized that the President is not immune from criminal charges stemming from his official (or unofficial) acts while in office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixo...gerald#Opinion



The reason for Deutsche Bank subpoenas:



https://violationtracker.goodjobsfir.../deutsche-bank
There are NO Criminal Charges against President Trump. What part of NO do the Leftists not understand?

Look up Bill Of Attainder ....
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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That is one beautiful retort ChiGeekGuest, but, there is one thing I could add concerning Trump's tax returns. There's little coverage of it but there is another whistleblower complaint concerning Trump's IRS and how one of his toxic termites has infiltrated the IRS to influence Trump's tax audit. It's been reported in the media that Trump was involved with a tax scheme that managed to avoid paying taxes on 400 million and Trump allegedly fabricated a loan to avoid paying 50 million in taxes. I'm sure Vinny the fixer had a ton of documentation that was seized after his business and house was raided by the FBI. There is a reason Trump is fighting tooth and nail to keep his tax returns away from some think tank that could dissect it and potentially expose criminality. Business Insider has a good article : There's a 2nd whistleblower complaint no one's talking about, and it could be as damaging to Trump as the Ukraine scandal.

Trump has a pattern of inserting toxic termites to destroy from within. Whether it be the environment giving companies free reign to pollute for the sake of profit, or a yes man appointee to interfere in the OMB to with hold aid from Ukraine, or a yes man appointee to control his mandatory tax audit. Trump is sketchy, crooked, and a disgrace. None of this should be swept under the rug because he's Donald Trump.

Oh lordy Quick Enough. That you hate him rhetoric is ridiculous and for low information people that truly don't know anything other than what right wing conspiracy theories spoon feed you. It does matter that most of his inner circle is in jail or waiting to go to jail. How do you defend that?
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Old 12-22-2019, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good article on the 3 cases the Supreme Court will hear:
Trump vs Mazars USA
Trump vs Vance
Trump Vs Deutsche Bank

Interesting to note that in each case Trump is a plaintiff not the defendant.

The lawyers in the Deutsche Bank case clearly state that the appeal is brought by Trump the private citizen.
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Judge Jon O. Newman of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, noting that the complaint filed by the president’s lawyers stated that “President Trump brings this suit solely in his capacity as a private citizen,” referred throughout his 106-page opinion to the “Lead Plaintiff” rather than President Trump.
Trump vs Mazur 6 of the 8 years were when he was a private citizen. Judges comments below:
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“It is far from obvious that President Trump, proceeding in his individual capacity, carries the mantle of the Office of the President in this case,” Judge Tatel wrote. He added that the House committee’s request “implicates no material subject to a recognized legal privilege or an asserted property interest.”
Judge Katzman's quote in Trump vs Vance.
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“We have no occasion to decide today the precise contours and limitations of presidential immunity from prosecution, and we express no opinion on the applicability of any such immunity under circumstances not presented here. Instead, after reviewing historical and legal precedent, we conclude only that presidential immunity does not bar the enforcement of a state grand jury subpoena directing a third party to produce nonprivileged material, even when the subject matter under investigation pertains to the president.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/o...gtype=Homepage
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Old 12-22-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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Good article on the 3 cases the Supreme Court will hear:
Trump vs Mazars USA
Trump vs Vance
Trump Vs Deutsche Bank

Interesting to note that in each case Trump is a plaintiff not the defendant.

The lawyers in the Deutsche Bank case clearly state that the appeal is brought by Trump the private citizen.


Trump vs Mazur 6 of the 8 years were when he was a private citizen. Judges comments below:


Judge Katzman's quote in Trump vs Vance.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/o...gtype=Homepage
On December 13, 2019, the SCOTUS agreed to review the three separate lower-court decisions that ruled against the IM-POTUS:

Justices to take up battle over Trump financial documents

"This afternoon the Supreme Court announced that it would wade into the fray over access to President Donald Trump’s financial records. The justices agreed to review three separate lower-court decisions that ruled against the president: Two of those decisions upheld subpoenas that would force the president’s accounting firm and lenders to turn over financial records that they have in their possession, while a third ordered the president’s accounting firm to provide prosecutors in New York City with his financial records, including his tax returns."

https://www.scotusblog.com/2019/12/j...ial-documents/

They consolidated two of the cases & will hear arguments in March 2020. Opinions are expected end of June 2020, so far no sign they will expedite.
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