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Old 12-15-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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Slavery helped make Europe “great.” Free labor is a huge economic stimulus. Jesus surely approves.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I don’t hate the person...I hate the sin!
Oh ok - good day to examine oneself.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:17 AM
 
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Sure Jesus was all about maximizing profit on backs of others. Enslaving people and taking what they owned though bloodshed and force. LOL Hear him exclaim regularly how "GREED IS GOOD" and how we should worship Mammon above all others.
Which if any sociopolitical system does HJ99 think Jesus would lean more towards?
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Perhaps you're getting the Renaissance confused with the Enlightenment?

The Renaissance was mainly a literary, artistic and civic movement until the early 16th century, when the Protestant Reformation gave rise to the Scientific Revolution (by freeing academia of the Aristotelian metaphysics imposed upon it by the Catholic orthodoxy).

Secularism, or philosophical naturalism, wasn't really a feature of any of these movements. It wasn't necessary for the scientific revolution, the empirical method or induction. It was also fundamentally incompatible with Rationalism, which arose a century later.


It entered the picture much later, in the 18th century, under Empiricism, which was a counter-movement to Rationalism.

Empiricism has not fared well as a theory of knowledge. Its principal legacy in the modern era is logical positivism, which collapsed in the 1960s. All that remains of the latter today is popular-level scientism, such as the New Atheism.
Stole my thunder. Without the Protestant Revolution we might still be in the Dark Ages.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Funny, usury enabled industrial revolution and the age of exploration. Until then Europe was an unremarkable hell hole on the verge of starvation.There are direct prohibition against usury in the Bible. Jews were allowed to practice usury by lending to goyims only. It is symbolic that the most Christian nation on Earth trashed all the remaining symbolic anti excessive usury laws just recently.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sorry Lefties: If Wasn’t For Judeo/Christianity Values The West Would Have Never Been Great
Ok, but I hope you realize he is trying to make money by selling a book.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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I don’t hate the person...I hate the sin!
Do you know who said that? It was Mamatha Ghandi, not Jesus.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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Stole my thunder. Without the Protestant Revolution we might still be in the Dark Ages.
Protestant revolution = everybody has a right to make God/religion in his own image to suit his own interests. It's been down the hill of absurd ever since. Christianity is everything you want it to be. There is a sect for every whim, aspiration or proclivity and if you cannot find anything suitable you can start your own Church. It is just that in the age of social breakdown more and more people start their own one man/woman churches in their heads.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:33 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Religion was a significant factor, but not the only one. There's a hypothesis that the policies of the Catholic church made the western world WEIRD.

https://www.livescience.com/catholic...ers-weird.html
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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Church attendance is way down in both Europe and North America. Secular humanism is winning -- but is currently under growing dark clouds of reactionary populist nationalism.
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